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Lestat

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Published 12 September de 2002 at 21:21:27

It should promote some international agency to determine the documentation of certain entities as destructive cults, and to process the Opus, as they now do with Batasuna. Nationally, in Spain part of the Dome of the PP is of the Work, and would be impracticable to promote something. And in other countries something similar happen.

I would have no problem in submitting letters with my name at international institutions to defend human rights. While I understand the fear that may have some former members of the Organization at retaliation. It would have to find some channel for members of the Work, they noticed the violations of their rights of victims.

¿Qué os parece la idea?

Vuestro, mientras esta maquinaria me pertenezca: Lestat.

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Published 13 September de 2002 at 01:22:32

Lestat:
I welcome you. I feel very good your idea, although I did not belong to Opus Dei, are just trying to get out, but there are little things I do not like. Besides my experience in a convent, well things are handled within the church, I'll tell you where I was in the whale fat is cooked, ie at key points and I think that the international institutions defense of human rights would be fine. Because you do not throw names of some of these institutions? But beware! the Church is very powerful, yet people are being encouraged and speaking, but look at the newspapers and is an international scandal as the Archbishop Storni in Santa Fe in Argentina and if not reading the newspapers El Pais or www.diaaldia. com. Who may do something to this gentleman that abuse of seminarians? I met him personally and I never liked from the start saw him face Sexópatas and time has given me the reason. Now it seems that the Vatican will reward holy city driving to Rome, to extinguish the fire burning in Santa Fe
Throw names of international organizations.
Cariños
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Published 13 September de 2002 at 22:10:02

What International will not be infiltrated by a member of Opusecta? Who would rely on getting into the lion's den?
I'd love to help all those who have been "put forward", I feel very sad, poor things. But who puts the bell the cat?

Amapola

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Published 13 September de 2002 at 22:15:32

I am willing to bell the cat. I have nothing to lose, since the end of the day I'm in the Work or financially dependent on her.

Yours, while this machine belongs to me: Lestat

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Published 14 September de 2002 at 09:53:35

Again, I am a retired with 23 years of work.
I do not understand this bad roll or there is much resentment, or (sorry) you have no idea of what you speak.
Personally to me nobody has destroyed anything.
I've always been left in addition to independence and the life I've had no problems with the work, or my political views or my professional work, I have always done what he has given me the win.
Greetings

Lestat

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Published 14 September de 2002 at 11:55:42

It is not resentment, not about seeking a pretext to create a debate, not about being on one side or the other of the river, it is truly to respect international human rights recnonocidos.

I am convinced that the work handled so the ability to self-judgment, that finally the right word is relegated to a different level of understanding by the majority.

I suppose that "human rights" for members of the work is something that the superiors say they are, and the rest of the rights recognized in the statements of human rights are abominable means of corruption of the soul, which are nothing more than to sin.

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Published 14 September de 2002 at 12:22:15

totally agree with that in the opus SECTI not respect human rights. not respect your freedom (even if there are people here who say that does what he wants is wrong), these are constantly under the gaze of the directors, not take a step forward without his approval. not going to funerals, weddings, christenings, shows. banish you far from your family. While you busy day with the fucking rules (or two minutes are to think freely about what you want, because if you have free mental time you have to fill out prayer cards with aspirations or yellowish). in the talk have full obligation to explain everything that has happened over the head, what you thought about prayer and what you talked to your priest (priest), you must explain your sins to your head (not cure) chapter and verse. has to account for your ministry (of course here is great pressure for people to stay away SECTI opus (not God) because we have to expand! WORTH!

This, gentlemen, this is freedom! OPUS DEI AND JOIN THE ADDITION OF ALL THE FOREGOING CAN EASILY GET A GOOD Cilicia under enormous pressure (AS YOU WANT TO BE HOLY) IN YOUR HIP AND NOT WORRY THAT YOUR CHILD IS A MINOR (FROM 14 5 YEARS) took him to a club will also give you OPUS PLAN THIS life, or rather had been coerced to be part of our sect, albeit with CILICIA INCLUDED. VA BIEN get used TEENS TO THIS PRACTICE OF MEDIEVAL.

pax

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Published 14 September de 2002 at 15:24:21

The truth of the day that the description of a true member can impress ,...' exaggerated, but true ... It is true that free minute you use it to say short prayers, or prayer card of Blessed, or think in the apostolate ... You do not have to think for yourself! (do not say fall in a constant monologue proud but ... unclear handling, to be completely dependent? ... I know what to say, no one handles it, it's good to pray, talk to God ... Without words)
There is also soul-searching questions such as if "I wasted time in idle talk, or thinking of myself ..."
Ah! I forgot the "watchword" is how you choose and prayer that you repeat throughout the day, to have more presence of God...

Lola icq: 172943141

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Published 14 September de 2002 at 16:08:25

When the "Kid" wrote the letter, knew everything there was to know to choose freely, so if one is not doing this roll did not write in peace. The opposite is lack of maturity, even if you have 14.5 years, vale!. And if one gets tired and goes in peace. I would like to analyze the rules of most institutions of the Catholic Church, Buddhist or that you want, you will find that far from those of the Work.
Agur.

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Published 14 September de 2002 at 17:54:16

I leave a thought:
They need to save our souls, think and act for us and take us down the path of the supposed salvation. They feel obliged to reduce us to zombies; mere producers that magnify his great work blessed by God and not think.