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13 November de 2002 at 17:24:58  
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Not to censor, but refrain, as far as possible, insults on this list. It interests me reach the final at this in the interests of the Opus, and the two previous attempts have already been gentecilla charging the thread of the arguments. Insults, which will, in another list (the one that interests you, that create new, and we'll put all to give birth) Here, arguments, humorous, and a speck of irony healthy (also abstain overly sensitive)
With so much hope does not rule alone.  And do not you come standard are so many memories in my brain ... opusdeístas
Returning to the last argument of the above list, I think it was Berto, the friend of children, stating that the interest of the Opus was the power and money "to mount and mount more centers attract more people live-where. It's like a wolf suckling her puppies so that they reproduce and have more wolves "
But that, I believe, is neither an end nor an interest in itself. More Centers ... Why? Cohabitation ... Why? Cubs ... Why?
Really, I reiterate that I am most interested in reaching the ultimate end of the matter.
Yes I agree as the figurehead of the Father, or at least partially. I guess it's more institutional or representative office. In an organization as large, it is logical. I do not think you read all the letters of pitaj (¿Ande will walk?) But remember that every month he wrote a letter with the main guidelines for action.
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| volo |
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14 November de 2002 at 18:11:31
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Dear Berto, in these times and with which this fall (see the concerns of the Episcopal Conference USA): Do not you dare go around saying it all the time you're the friend of children without more?.
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14 November de 2002 at 19:06:32
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!Hay volo, volo, to see if you live more!
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14 November de 2002 at 21:52:03
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Hello everyone,
. For my part tb.doy terminating the more clear tema.Está q. opus the sole purpose is power for power. Yes, very well masked by the divine spark.
I'm a few days off. Q So, you'll read on my return. |
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| Hi Evaristo. I, Berto, the friend of children. And I write this message with the sole intention of this discussion remains in the chandelier. Or was limelight? Anyway, here we have gotten some strange things without knowing why. One unknown. Someone should give some explanation. Or not. This is similar to my days at work when that cure short and grumpy said things. The director also. The assistant said nothing. Then the priest and the director said the opposite. And then, contrary to the contrary. The auxiliary exit. I wanted an explanation but they all walked around the bush. Then I felt cold showers. Conclusion: cold singing. I do not know what to expect. Is this forum about Opus Dei? Yes, I think. Well worth it. |
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15 November de 2002 at 20:17:26
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Hi Berto, sorry about the children (I wanted to be ironic irrelevantly) It makes me laugh your sense of humor, I think Pepe is the cure short and grumpy.
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Hola volo,
why hast thou insulted?
There volo, volo, are you going to see more educated!
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18 November de 2002 at 19:57:36
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| Hello, friends. I, Berto, the friend of children. To see if we can clarify. Do you think it a covenant of ladies / gentlemen? Here goes: he who has something to say about the interests of Opus Dei who write in this third chapter. If I'm not completely back asshole. And that is just me. Do you agree? Do not you wonder if you think that I have little to make me an asshole, but if what we wrote here of interest. Bye. |
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18 November de 2002 at 20:30:06
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Hello Berto friend of children, you have not read that the geeks and unique have already harmed by buttoned up this issue, no more Berto does not argue, they have already been terminated
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18 November de 2002 at 23:27:52
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Pepe, Volo insinuate that you are the 'cure short and grumpy' is it an insult?.
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19 November de 2002 at 11:20:26
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alvaro:
alvaro wrote: "Pepe, Volo insinuate that you are the 'cure short and grumpy' is it an insult?."
Comment: this is not insulting?
it goes, but I will suggest that you, alvaro, you're an idiot ...
I do not know if it's insulting ...
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| Hi, Berto, the friend of children. Never supposed to cure my short and grumpy would be a missile between members of this forum. He never would. Well he was. Insults on the forum is a waste of time. How awful, and I speak as my director. I believe that the irreconcilable positions here are not going to keep reconciled. Why does Opus Dei Masses never gave peace? It's something that I'm spinning. I think the best thing is that everyone present his idea. Pepe: I know a web address that maybe you might be interested. The trouble is that adult content may not only should it here. Do not put it then. Who does that page contains unofficial official truths about the Work? Does the chaplain, in his spare time in a personal capacity? Answer. Adiós |
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19 November de 2002 at 14:19:27
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berto,
01. "Who does that page contains unofficial official truths about the Work?"
Answer: I do not know, but a cash of course ...
02. "The chaplain, in his spare a personal basis?"
Answer: I do not know.
I have answered. bye. |
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Dear Berto, when I read your last post to give you peace at Mass, which was actually not, I decided that was not always so. I remember when the new liturgical norms came after the Council, in a public church of the Work, the Priest (a tenured) in the homily was explaining the liturgical changes, and once in a gesture of peace, was dumped in praise and joy on the gesture (if need urging to hug and kiss) all with great enthusiasm and well said (it was a good speaker). Within a short time began arriving in Rome notes that if the Council was playing bad, and if the liturgy desecrated the Eucharist, that if the Church was without direction, etc.etc. (all at this time We heard constantly). This led to approaches drastically changed and could no longer shake hands in peace (who were going to Mass or parish church to put us in the most remote site so that there was no one around, or we put his hands in pockets and did nod. At last a mess. At that time, the women's section began the battle of the veil in iglesia.Batalla be lost before but it resulted in numerous anecdotes. Among others in the Church only had you see veiled women to know they were supernumerary. After years and the waters calmed and returned to make peace, but actually, says Berto, I think in Masses for the Coexistence of peace we did not (not I remember for sure)
Finish the story. Hugs
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19 November de 2002 at 21:00:56
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| Dear Volo. I am Berto, the friend of children. Remember well. No peace in church. I'm glad you tell these avatars of years ago. You read the books and official version seems to jump for joy and cried with joy when he attended the council. In the Work is expert makeup. It's good to know the truth. And accommodated. Even the mistakes. And incidentally be a bit less convoluted. Standards, day watch, fraternal correction, mortifications, aspirations, thanksgiving, spiritual communions, veils for women, and so forth. A life fully secular. A vision is. Bye. |
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Hello everyone!
the truth is that the "peace" in the Mass was always intrigued me good to know all this ...
Of interest, it seems that there's still a lot of material to be cut because it can take from two sides: the real or they use to cover up the true ....
between the covers ... efforts are for the construction of centers "for training" true: to live in good house ...
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