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| First greetings to all participants of this forum. I found it while searching for information about Opus. I do not belong or have belonged to the Work (but if other kinds of circumstances that I had and have this) so we do not know much more than you present here know and are familiar, so I leave this message. I have read much about the topic of cash / ace. What I miss is that someone name the subject of supernumeraries, how they live, what they are advised, what "advantages" enjoyed by virtue of being (a part of forming a "large" family, of course) or deseventajas, what is in the Work disluce to see if anyone has the vocation of cash or temporary ... "They are advised who to start a family? I do not know, I think is a vast and little discussed. If anyone could answer, since I have no information (or I'd like) I would appreciate it. Thank you very much for providing this opportunity for people who do not know who to ask or where to go. |
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| pusey-2 |
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Well, foreros, what you hope to give an answer to this Mr. I have not been temporary and can not give any personal information.
Just what I've seen are people who are less influenced by the institution, I would say they are almost normal people (in terms of rule-Catholic Christian) who have to combine many rules of piety to his profession and his family.
I think that at this point what happens is that experiences can be extremely varied and contact with the institution (which for them is quite time) will depend on its effects more or less positive with people of the work dealing with (the added-cash-keeper to make the talk, the priest to confess to).
Overall, and as I said, I do not much to separate their lives and thinking of other conservative Catholic groups sign.
What have the children that God sends, are permitted natural methods (I, for my part, I followed also in). Well, tell you. |
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| ana |
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HELLO!
gives me the impression that this gentleman, as Pusey has been called, is well aware of Opus Dei and is dedicated to open topics to see what we say. you do not see anything wrong, but I think I could do it directly, without seeing that he knows nothing ... and using the nickname he always used and not present as a guest.
for months now that I realized ...
but hey, nothing happens. just give my opinion ... but it bothers me a bit that attitude, that little transparency ... I think it is fine to talk about the super-No.
(would cost nothing to say: let's talk about the super-n! instead of taking the detour that gives the beginning of the subject, like New Here ... as it has done on other occasions, if I mistake ...)
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| cabernet |
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Weno, I will give my opinion on the super'n. I was, but I know several, and I want to emphasize that my opinion is based only on what I saw.
The circular (or instruction, or letter, do not remember how is called) from San Gabriel, the founder wanted the super'n were like "an intravenous injection into the circulatory system of society". So, I wanted estubieron stuck in the world, in the heart, and so bring society to Christian values.
This is very nice, but what I saw was the opposite: all supers-but one I knew worked in corporate works-OD or in companies whose shareholders were other super'n and all executives of the work. They brought their children to schools attached to them. His friends were other supers. All his professional life, personal and family revolved around the OD.
From what I saw, the OD does not live their charism. That organization has become something closed, wrapped to itself and its members-including supers are a "world apart" other world. They live in the world but all juntitos, lest they be intoxicated. They are not "intravenous injection", but a plaster of those that is placed on the nose and is useless. |
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| Well, first of all say I'm the person who opened the topic. and tell Anne that he had never participated in this forum. I feel that the fact of not being registered (because I'ma girl, not boy) tend to think I'm algien forum that belongs to the sole fact that infuse open to debate topics (which I have found that this does not). I thought this was an open forum. Apologize if I offended anyone not registered in it and come up with a fictitious name (I see no difference). The reasons just attended my participation in this forum it was fortuitous and casual. Seeking information, as well blurted out in my message. And no, I do not belong to the work, nor do I know the topic, hence my question and that's why I made. Why care about me? because it is something that concerns me personally. I have had the opportunity to meet a person he is, and I must say that his association with the work pratically the same: go aa their weekly talks, weekly confession, meetings, retreats and more. It belongs to a club who have been cited here and I know that actively participates in it. Hence my doubts. I know that at any given time have advised him how to turn his life and of course, that's why I care about. I did not want to raise suspicion, simply look up information. |
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| Neyda |
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| For suspicion of Anna, or any other person who confuse me with some participants of this forum, just reassure the fact that I have already registered in it (I am the same person who opened the topic) do not understand why that suspicion and intrigue about who open a topic, if someone can explain. I do not think I said anything wrong to propose |
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| pusey-2 |
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Neyda, worry no more. Many times we have discussions amongst ourselves and although not too frequent, we also ask for forgiveness.
I think Ana has simply acted under the principle of "scalded cat, cold water is enough," or conditioned behavior that ultimately the interventions are making a group (the only explanation) pro Opus Dei which is under the name "Nic" (see answers to the forums for a week and a half). |
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| Lola2002 |
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Neyda: I was a supernumerary .. do you want to know? Question and answer you...
Lola (la de la fotito -si sale- es Lola Mora)
Lola
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Neyda hello! then I apologize. confused me! 
welcome to the forum!
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Do not worry Anne, as Pusey said I could see why suspicions, I see reasonable. I hope that no further incidents like those that appear to have (and I have also come in an unpropitious moment.
I thank also passing his speech Cabernet  , thanks. And Lola (I already familiar with the names of the participants of way). I find it very interesting to hear about your experience as a supernumerary, although I suppose that is not lived like being a woman does it? I do not know, so I think I have learned that we live differently if you're a woman or man and that the treatment is different (like not being lived as temporary cash which, of course) Is that so?.
On the other hand I ask myself that having a vocation for assistance / to guess the purpose is to raise a family, and at this point the question of what you pressured in any way to form? Or you advised, once, whom you should or should not include? (of course differential is one thing and another to advise you is to decide for you, are two different things). Maybe consider some questions arising ridiculous, but I make is that quite unaware of the subject (not a total ignorance, because I have met and know people who belong to the Work, but there has always been silent on these issues who is not ) |
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