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This "story" is strong. Impressionable Refrain ...
Several years ago, about five or six, a numerary very lovely daughter mother and two brothers supernumerary Fellows (both in the Delegations of Argentina and Uruguay) was aimed at a Latin American country. She had around 25 years and began studying at the university to be "putting on" in the environment, meet girls drinking to fish and place in the opus. It turns out that his catch was the attention of a comrade ... smiles going, smiles come, the numerary became pregnant. The uproar that erupted in the delegations of Argentina and Uruguay!! Immediately, the sac where the romance had lived and had to return humiliated and depressed to the country of origin.
Major conferences with counselors involved, Cures Doctors in "moral", directors and other herbs to the poor woman was propuseron the following two options:
1. You're going to a distant field of a supernumerary and stay there to have a child. Once born the child, placement for adoption and return to continue your life numerary.
2. You leave the opus and God help you.
This lovely woman I choose the second option. He left alone and very sad for the slight opus, his brothers cash and the rejection of his "super" mother.
But he was able to get ahead against all odds. Then she met a man that I love, my son included, and now that I know are still together and very happy.
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| lucy |
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19 November de 2002 at 14:17:55
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Eyyy!!!
Did you intimidate these stories ?  |
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| Evaristo |
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19 November de 2002 at 15:57:04
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Lucy, we find ourselves. Celebrate it with a virtual hug ...
But do not be surprised that after a certain resentment in you insinuate. No, do not insult me or see angry about this that I say. Opened, a forum to tell stories, okay, laugh. I think even participate by telling a little adventure. More laughter. The purpose was to entertain, if not mistaken. But you do not settle for this. You have to go further. You have to do damage. And also open a new forum anecdotes. And history tells a painful story camouflaged.
Really, without bitterness ... I see resentment on all sides. If you want, I'll explain in what particular points of "your" story I see this lack of objectivity, but this forum is not for that, and may not be interested personnel. No doubt the veracity of the facts, I do not think, let alone that deceive us, but intent to injure hint.
And you do not see any insult. I tell these things the same way as I am told that Opus defend tooth and nail, I am controversial, and others.
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| BaronNick |
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19 November de 2002 at 17:29:26
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evaristo friend, you insult the truth? why you hurt something you do not make you, if not a woman.
I have another story, and put it here and in all places where it can be put. Some time ago I do not know what it was or what Opus afoot. A classmate found out that I did not believe in God and told me to accompany him to a conference of some teachers about the new academic year. The conference became a talk of some priests about the life and works of the Marquis of Peralta. After mosques to the topic, I was going to leave but I did out of respect for my partner, it took me to talk to a priest. It was all very polite discussion about the existence of God, as I usually always have, until I told him he listened to the Polla Records and Soziedad Alkohólika. Esntonces I started screaming, calling me a communist (as if that were an insult) and told my partner not to come back to me because I was gay.
Since then I have been reading things for and against the work and the Marquis MOSEÑOR. And I think you know my opinion, so try to help the poor people who are giving their money to the wrong sect, when you can use to give to the poor (I have never seen a poor opus, you do?). And for people of faith, I would say that to reach their God they do not need so much history.
Incidentally, the singer called Evaristo Polla like you, I invite you to listen to this group o. .. have it banned?
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| Berto |
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19 November de 2002 at 17:52:11
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| Hello, friends. I Berto, the friend of children. There is so much bullshit that the work becomes an object of worship than a drama that has become the story does not sink the world. I will make up one. Semistrong. You, Evaristo, do not read. No, I was not pregnant. It would then be a miracle. Who knows whether to support the beatification. In there everything is usable. And that one member, male and celibate to get pregnant is to note. Just made me chaplain at a stretch. As I was saying. Just whistle and I warned him not to confess to priests away from home. Fine example of ecumenism and belonging to the same church. It turns out that while the concept of sin I put him deeply. Scruples the song, then. I lived in a villa away from the city where the center. 15 years old. I thought he needed a confession but did not hand my good friend the priest little grumpy. I went to the nearest church. Dominican Order. What a coincidence, talking about them. A good Dominican priest answered my confession and acquitted me. When a few days appeared in the middle my director called me. What did the other day?, Asked me ornery. I knew what he meant. Even I felt fear. It was just blown, again. I denied having done anything. For fear. And it was he who told me you have confessed in the Dominicans. Pasmo huge. What had happened? That in the same church had a good temporary help. Carried away by his good spirit, the son of the supernumerary Britain was ready to report to the center. In my house it's called goats. At home it is called safeguard the proper spirit. Since then every one of the few times I confessed out, had six eyes. And in case of doubt, no confession. That's what they got. This was my story. Bye. |
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19 November de 2002 at 18:14:22
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Evaristo, "Flames painful story to the story of Lucy? Why is it painful? Why is a numerary was blessed with a son? Is not that what you asked your father children many children?
Blessed miracle that allowed the girl in this story being released!
You say well you see resentment in his narrative, I do not see it, but if I had it for some reason do not you think? No one leaves a blister on her foot where it rubs on the shoe.
As for what to do harm Where's the harm? No person who has the conviction as strong as yours can make any dent a story like that.
Do not be so persecutor of ghosts and make us laugh with some anecdote of your trunk of memories.
Hugs
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19 November de 2002 at 21:14:34
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By popular demand brings me back to why I feel "resentment" he wrote Lucy.
There are elements that directly prosecute a priori at people heroes of the story: it seems that the so-numerary was lovely (do not know why) and Opus are the other "herbs" and meet in secret meetings. Who consciously writes well, writes in a biased way. If you have been unconsciously ... saving me the best qualified, I'd rather convince maturity of the issuer.
I am convinced that if this woman had not gone through that, but had remained in the opus, Lucy would not call it "charming" Who does not prejudge at people for who they are in themselves, but to the extent that they are in According to what I think? That, in my hometown, is resentment.
The protagonist gets into a university in order to meet girls drinking to fish and place in the opus. This "charming" attitude is ridiculous. Opus Nobody gets into the sites for such things. You know that his style is different: take advantage of any circumstance to proselytize and apostolate, but never the reverse. Turn to reality in interest is resentment.
On with the lovely cash. Interpret the matter differently, too tendentious: the opus is devoted to fuck at first caught in the corridors of power. I say the first thing that caught because of this lovely woman failed to see the intentions of the rope, which basically wanted to take a caliqueño and if you've seen do not remember. That is, besides an idiot fucker.
There is also resentment in the way of counting Lucy: the central part of the "anecdote" is solved:
van smiles, smiles come, the numerary became pregnant
It does not take much intelligence to see that that is where the importance of the facts. But that does not matter, why not say it is not specified.
We talk about the snub of Opus. Yes, indeed. The rebuff was the Opus. But being a numerary and get pregnant not really know who, no that's not a snub. It also sounds to consistency.
I can not understand why not the charming Opus came before. A former girlfriend of mine explained it to me and I did understand: if you're going to roll with another, I said, let me before. The horns just feel good to the bulls and the Vikings.
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| Berto |
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19 November de 2002 at 23:48:45
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| Hello, Evaristo. I Berto, the friend of children. Your explanation, manual. Like many things in the works. You take the manual and follow it step by step. The machine must respond to each key. Too bad for the work that people we're not machines. I'm not defending anyone. Numerary or sympathetic or sympathetic with slips of forum participants. All I know is that enters the human condition to do many amazing things. And people are above institutions. And if one / to err options can not be those that were given to the girl. This is my opinion. Without wishing to argue with anyone. It's an issue that directly affects me. But I only say that people and institutions, at given moments we make the cut. Everyone. Bye. |
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I had a friend (numerary was at that time) told me a numerary who had to leave the center (I think it was the South, the study center in Argentina) because I was pregnant (perhaps the same as Lucy ... or there will be many !!!!!). I remember the numerary who told me the school's director challenged her very much, and then instructed me to tell me that these things do not count, do not repeat it ...
Ah! Evaristo, it made me laugh with people that opus not get into college (or wherever) to catch people ... I still remember the examination of conscience of the circle that went something like Have I frequented environments could develop a favorable electoral activities?
Besitos!!!!!
Lola
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| lucy |
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20 November de 2002 at 02:51:09
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Eva, how you bother my stories. And maybe you think you're going to intimidate me, putting his label "resented"? Well, if you head reassures located in that place, go ahead. With your mental blocks I'm not getting involved.
Lola! that good that you've encouraged to tell that another story. No. It is not the same person who hablamos.Y several similar stories to tell. But the important thing to count, so at least I do, is to expose the institution and see the hypocrisy with which they live and forcing its members live. The aim of telling these stories is not laugh about the protagonists, but exposing the truth. These people suffered greatly. NOT to become pregnant - divine wonder! - But the humiliation and abuse they received in the work of God (?). They were the innocent victims of an evil system.
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20 November de 2002 at 03:09:28
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Hello everyone!
Victims of an evil system! buena esa.
the truth is that many victims in each story told, humiliation, abandonment and condemnation to unhappiness out of the opus.
The truth is that stories stories ...
I was an aggregate (it was first hand) that were courting hand with a guy and all (without losing it) plus she looked at parties and anywhere with their child, in order that the scandal in the center was good, with "discreet inquiries" at what happened to directors fulanita that he had seen in this or that place with the aforementioned, in order that touched the poor to endure torture that beg to reflect and give account of the work that was not going to be happy, walked a while with the head up and down to "escort" but finally decided and wrote to the father telling bye
As such there are many, I tell them is a very quick ...
There was a young numerary, a friend of a family of supers and Fellows, and 10 days ago via the numerary numerary the son of the family, holding hands, and everything ... acarameladitos
well, that's no bad intentions, no offense to anyone, just share with all true stories...
Bye
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20 November de 2002 at 03:10:40
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Hello everyone!
Victims of an evil system! buena esa.
the truth is that many victims in each story told, humiliation, abandonment and condemnation to unhappiness out of the opus.
The truth is that stories stories ...
I was an aggregate (it was first hand) that were courting hand with a guy and all (without losing it) plus she looked at parties and anywhere with their child, in order that the scandal in the center was good, with "discreet inquiries" at what happened to directors fulanita that he had seen in this or that place with the aforementioned, in order that touched the poor to endure torture that beg to reflect and give account of the work that was not going to be happy, walked a while with the head up and down to "escort" but finally decided and wrote to the father telling bye
As such there are many, I tell them is a very quick ...
There was a young numerary, a friend of a family of supers and Fellows, and 10 days ago via the numerary numerary the son of the family, holding hands, and everything ... acarameladitos
well, that's no bad intentions, no offense to anyone, just share with all true stories...
Bye
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apology, but one question: who is the bad character?
looks: good or bad, a (a) adding (a) / cash (a) is committed to the opus which, in principle, assumed by their own will, even as the apostolic celibacy.
if if left with 'love' with one or another public besides, I think the bad character who is not lived out her commitment.
boyfriend wants to have (a)? worth it, even before the road taken by the departure of the opus.
is the same as with a pair of lovers: You've been tired of your boyfriend, say goodbye before going on near another. What is your opinion? |
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| Well, Pepe, okay. I, Berto, the friend of children. You do not know how much I like what you said. Living compromise. Ok. As a newlywed couple. Comparison excellent, but boyfriends before buying furniture and house in the middle? What I say is no light matter. I have had four official girlfriends. More romances between. But that is irrelevant, I suppose. I stop talking about it because I am filled with nostalgia. What times. I continue, then. He meant that if you compare it with the newlyweds and compare it to all: when you abandon the compromise because he feels like establishing a division of property. Nothing I say if you compare it to a marriage. The work in this direction is a bad girlfriend. The priest could do little grumpy perfectly the role of future mother. Opus Dei is that selfish bride groom decide to abandon it when it does not deliver anything: not the mother's rosary, or the hull of the bike. So, Joe, that compares with all the consequences. Oh, and take this opportunity to salute my mother here, which I hope I never read. If you find out that I was in the works and I wisecrack insured for a long season. Good is she. |
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| Hello, friends. I am Berto, the friend of children. What I say is not a strong story. It is not even an anecdote. Just wanted to translate my satisfaction that this forum has returned after a week of unexplained halt. I hope someone tell us the reasons some year. I wanted to make this event the "blackout" to declare publicly that I felt during these days the true value of freedom of expression and opinion. And I sincerely hope that this is an open forum where everyone presents what they want. This is what's called freedom. Greetings to all and if I, Berto, the friend of children, (which represents only my three ex-girlfriends, my current girlfriend, my dog, two of my four brothers and my mother, a salute to them all) , can serve to welcome you, give to you: Welcome, friends. |
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Hello everyone !!!!!!
I have strong stories, well, more or less ... When I stopped being Opus also went to high school where trabajadba (led by Opus, but always say no is the opus, which only gives spiritual counseling ....) and never called me to pay me what they owed me, or propose a payment plan (they are like $ 10,000 in this country, Argentina ... I clarify that I worked there many years and I paid full wages all the months, I paid vacation and bonuses, and the contributions I made in the Pension Fund !!!!!!)
Now I am fighting for what is mine, but do not say I feel like the worst, that they want to destabilize the economy Colñegio ... Because they make me feel quye to pay me to me (What's mine) have to stop paying people who still work .. And so the story begins again ... (and the truth is that although I have no reason, I create a sense of guilt or tell)
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