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Around that time did not write anything. Today I read some posts on the forum and reminded me of my entry and exit opus. I know that having a spiritual director has a goal of aid, no pressure, and the director has a responsibility with the advice he gives. And do not say anything about the constraints that can play. Which does not abrogate the responsibilities addressed. The worst thing you could do is not consulting more trustworthy people not to work outside the beep. The whistle for testing, tracking in the play despite seeing things that went against conscience. Of course things were not going so well and end up worse. It is true that the directors and the people around you never wanted to see if progress towards God was real or was based on a trust what you were told. It is also true that you never talk about this with good people outside the opus, by shame and fear, which follows the easy way to do what I say in House and feel that you look good. Do not you strive to find out where it came from that restlessness in my soul. Obviously passes like so many others are not prepared to whistle for lack of love of God. And there's more. That does not mean that gradually grows, but always with personal initiative. We all know that pressure on a person, urging vanity, (you're a great person, you have virtues ...) and arrogance (pudes do incredible things if pitas, you depend on many great things), is quite harmful, but it is of an influence so large that you can not say no. I scandalized the ex-cash / sexual problems to the Opus, or such other things that were repressed in the background. Nobody came and inquired for help on this problem (very bad on the other hand), but neither did much to leave it. Until something that makes him very interested in breaking those commitments, and falls in a more notorious as it was doing before. With a partner, money, ect ... But the origin of everything is almost always overestimate my love for God, take me to crazy about the commitments with him, ect .., along, of course, with the desire to find fresh pitaj directors.
Now I have renewed hopes for God and follow my way to him but without forgetting that the real harm that I did was just the address to something that was not willing to do, and that separated me from God, and I consented to all this. Ojito with what everyone assumes!, In the end this if it sets a bad roll. (Pilate also pressed). A greeting:
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| Lola2002 |
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19 December de 2002 at 12:52:44
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Tanit, when you hear (or rather, when I read) I feel like kicking out doors opus, so they are not tanidiotas, and for those inside to realize what is going ....
I was not cash, but super, but I was like "lavandoi the cerbro", not to mention self-esteem. With the theme of "humility" (re-misunderstood, obviously) and OBEDIENCE ... my self-esteem and initiative on the floor.
When I read your experiences, or others, when I read (at a stretch) the book of Maria del Carmen Tapia, and when I think of people I know (and myself, especially a few years ago) I feel a choke unbearable .. . so you do not always understand that you feel like things have suffered.
A big kiss!!!!!!!!!
LOLA
Lola
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| Ulises |
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There is a saying about the members of Opus that while simplistic (and no offense) can be guidance on this issue, it is clear that all are not in the same circumstances and probably has to be one who invents and develops the system (Opus) , who use it for personal gain and who creates it to the fullest. That "that" states that members of Opus are classified into the following types (I think I put it in this forum):
- GOOD AND FOOLS
- BAD AND STUPID
- BAD AND READY
Further, it would not fit in Opus the GOOD AND READY.
Maybe there is the crux of responsibility, as has been taken in each Opus. It is clear that all claim to be on the same grounds, but is it really so?. I would like to give me your opinion which you have been in. |
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There is a saying about the members of Opus that while simplistic (and no offense) can be guidance on this issue, it is clear that all are not in the same circumstances and probably has to be one who invents and develops the system (Opus) , who use it for personal gain and who creates it to the fullest. That "that" states that members of Opus are classified into the following types (I think I put it in this forum):
- GOOD AND FOOLS
- BAD AND STUPID
- BAD AND READY
Further, it would not fit in Opus the GOOD AND READY.
Maybe there is the crux of responsibility, as has been taken in each Opus. It is clear that all claim to be on the same grounds, but is it really so?. I would like to give me your opinion which you have been in. |
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Hi Ulysses,
answering your question and always on my experience I would say the following:
Indeed the father and the dome q. are q. not run the show if they are smart or stupid, good or bad '(quite debatable). Escriva Unless q. as it has been well described in these forums was someone q. was chosen by God and thought it was so believed q. its pretensions to super choice, they took him too far.
Removing this group the rest I would say q. We have been and are good. We set out with generosity to undertake the adventure of loving God.
The READY vary. There are people in very intelligent, smart and a little less intelligent. FOOLISH not believe q. there are many, the opus is not interested.
They prefer to have good instruments and ready to mold more easily and effectively and serve their purposes well.
The crux of the issue goes by sectarian tactics q. individuo.Generalmente used to reduce to one individ LISTO.Pero GOOD and the q. you can see these tactics and absorbed by all the philosophy and ethics of secta.El longer the infividuo to give way to embrace the ideology of the jump is the q. secta.Ese we should consider in finding the crux of the matter.
I leave philosophy and I wish you all q. paseis happy holidays.
Greetings,
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| Well tanit!, Smart and dumb as you've had to literally,! Nor is this woman!. Suppose for a moment that the members of Opus who have brainwashed the we put under the heading of stupid (only for this speculation) in this case apart from those we would be brainwashed and ill-prepared, do you think there are none so?. I refer not only to high office, I know that I doubt are temporary brainwashed, I think they have wrong is the scale of values and ethical principles, but I would be hard to understand that way of making money skipping the legality and ethical beliefs, their lovers, and so on., yes, working 12 or 14 hours a day and keeping a clean social appearances (for which they ask how they can have lovers work so hard, just takes imagination and you will have the answer.) By this I mean that probably all are not brainwashed, is a very large organization and many people in different situations, so there has to be said that those who "ride the shed" those who profit from it and those who they believe, these are the brainwashed that they would more clearly, with respect to the other would have to be nuanced and see each individual case. |
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