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I've found this forum via our website we left. I think the best would be that we went we begin to take the issue seriously and start making complaints in the courts against the violation of human rights repeatedly inflict opus with teens raised on their organization.
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| Pipa: "You too go? Tell us something more than your life ... |
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| Amapola |
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See what you think of this another proposal:
Place in a printed photograph of a hair shirt and some disciplines, she stands under this text:
Beware, there is a sect, called by them organization, which, once you are on your network, you give these instruments of torture for you mortifiquéis with them. And that is all that will have to endure.
Watchful eye, in the name of God are many atrocities !!!!
If you want more information contact (here he gets e-mail address there).
As you can see even appointing the Opus Dei. What do you think?
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| iggy |
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Amapola, tell you the truth I'm not obsessed with it to report anything because in my case happened long ago and I know there is no evidence largely because it was you who was convinced he did.
I'm happy now. It would be very unhappy if I continue in the work, so the best I can do is to remain happy, thank God that helped me out of Opus Dei and try to enjoy life. I spent too much time thinking about the work to continue to think now. All I do is come by this forum, which is really fun sometimes to talk about things but certainly very serious and people who still suffers. Luckily I already do not suffer and I, God willing, a whole life ahead. The ten years of my youth, college, university regain lost not ever, but I will not spend the rest of my life thinking about it. |
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| Ulises |
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Report to justice Opus seems useless, at least to some members that they could show some responsibility for specific acts. Moreover, it seems that the best time to do so, the Opus is too infiltrate and openly supported from the highest echelons of power. What I find interesting is the approach that the former members who are aware of the damage that you act Opus made you to try to prevent other people suffering the same. In this case, the attitude of iggi, look respectable, I think the most just and solidarity.
Every day I see busloads of children that are directed at the schools owned by companies belonging to Opus, many are sent at daycare from early childhood, how unmoved by all this, knowing that these schools are being manipulating?. The obligation of parents to teach their children in freedom, transmitting the basic values but leaving open all possible avenues for personal development. In these schools is exactly the opposite, albeit with more modern materials means, and that's just the beginning, later will come all the pressures that have been discussed here to draw these young people. How can you remain unmoved by this, a person who has experienced the same?. The mere fact of passing here, I think it's great, but more than any initiative which hits the streets, but some proposals may seem in principle nonsense, making them can get some interesting, not making them not. |
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| ana |
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I agree it's a bad time to complain. the good time will be within 9 months.
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ulises, it seems very correct what you said that those who were handled in schools should not give the opus as it going with our brothers or otr @ s chic @ s.
In this respect the idea of the pamphlet poppy is all right.
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hola: hear me, heading for morons, you believe that four may sinverguenzas against OD? ... continue making plans, I am a part of the world far away from Spain, thank God ... I'm in a place where the OD is very dear, as much or more than in the majority sector of Spain who wants to OD ... You work in a school in the Work ... joer !!!... and going very well and very happy and adolescents are now more than ever we speak clearly, very clearly, because many of them want to get into the Work, the PEROM we wait till they are sure they are willing to use the sackcloth and disciplines, and is even willing to obey, to live in poverty, giving all and they are willing to live as essential quées in the Work ... You know it perfectly because I was taught but not assimilated, otherwise it would not be where they are ... this is be willing to be other Christs ... yes, my dears, that is what makes your fidelity: The love of Christ with all its consequences, which are not precisely the lack of freedom, let you manipulate, as you want to believe at people ... Christ you amaistes not so ... YES OR NO?
I do not any of you say that life is hell Opus NOT TRUE ... On the contrary, it's a wonderful life, live to the fullest, enjoy many things and above all keeps you upright, as it somehow ... but actually, do not fit the frivolous nor effeminate, nor the sensuality that makes your god ... hear me well, denouncing the Opus, of WHAT? ... rather, I would say advertise ... COME, COME AND BE HAPPY ... with problems, tragedies, pains, not missing ... but, HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, Upsss, I pardon was the hand for the sheer enthusiasm |
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The previous guest is absolutely right: ignorance makes people happy. Why we must condemn publicly what we have seen, lived and suffered in that sect? Announcing the rooftops how pretty she is lying, slander against those who leave Opus, coercion, intransigence, and fanaticism!
There is no better example of what is Opus, that the above message. |
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| Amapola |
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27 January de 2003 at 21:40:42
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Iggy, desairarte not want my words, I really understand your position, and I appreciate your advice, but if we remain inactive allow many more people are damaged in stone that we hurt ourselves, I think we should mark it with fluorescent paint for that which is not given to her by not seeing it.
I do not advocate creating an organization, or anything like that because: the scalded cat flees from cold water, but if you meditate you will see that my proposal without much fanfare, perhaps we could reach many people, however, someone may you can think of something better. Something must be done!
I am now happy Iggy, but I will know more when the wolves are seen wolf's skin held under the ditto of lamb.
Un abrazo
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The one I do not want to mobilize and go to protest with a banner or strung out along the fence greenpeace any school outside of the work does not mean I will not give my testimony to how many people may need.
We've all heard that fish that were fishing in the head, which was a phrase used by St. Josemaria to indicate that the best way to win souls is at using reason and for that we must have a solid religious , philosophical and so on.
But I think a big lie. I was not caught by the head because it was heated on purpose and, in a matter of hours after a brutal stranglehold in which several Fellows including the director and the priest of the center-all quite older than me-were relieved to not give me a break, "was one of May and that day was marked with an X on the agenda of the center for me beep-giving me all sorts of arguments both rational and irrational for me to give my life in that place and that afternoon. And I was only 14.
I think just telling you this, but better than in the forum, in person, to everyone I can find and you may need, my testimony can help maybe. I just do not seem interesting to mount demonstrations and making noise.
Do not you remember that we were experts in swimming against the tide? So the enemies who hate the work were also proof that we were on the right track and were an incentive to adhere more to the Work, a safe place to live and die. So I mean that if they practiced the apostolate of friendship and confidence and if they used that family atmosphere so typical of the schools where everyone will smile if you saw a future pitable ... I-except for my participation in this forum, when I have to, tell you my experience with sincerity and confidence, looking into the eyes of the person in front of you.
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| The invited guest or as enthusiastic Opus phrase reminded me of M Luther King, "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity". |
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| Ana, that means that the proper time to expose them to justice will be within 9 months?, I just realized that you put it and do not understand. |
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| I found the forum by chance and I am remembering many things. Fuy numeario for thirteen years and certainly not counted here lies or estupideces.Soy Advocate and there are things I do not understand. Judge Dean of my city is cash,! To see quen complaint! What amazes me most is the fulfillment of things missing and public order. I never work in domestic work, only I was deputy director and secretary of a center, but when one has worked out internally have anything listed on SS? What numeraries aids? "It is a listed one for them?. Lo de manip adolescents but is a reality and exists in all Campora and organizations, but that's onjetivo, right to social security and unemployment for those who wake up and stay on the streets with nothing. |
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| Hello my dear simpleton, who is not Lunches, appeared with password and all ... What if we disintegrate the forum? ... now it seems that nic is the one who will say what I'm saying that lio not? ... I do not care ... the truth is that I would like to clarify what they wrote in another topic of the forum, you write every stupid and I do not have time to read through ... uff finally delete a password Lunches and happy, was bothering me ... what I was saying: I am a numerary of Opus Dei, but you who believe, that we numeraries as you paint? ... No sir ... I understand now where do you get that prototype, of course, you think that we are numeraries and Venezuelan nationalizations, as Carmen Tapia ... but it pissed ha ha ha ... WE ARE EACH OTHER ... I have my temper and fleas can not stand, as you know, you dolts greater brand ... that you believe me, with the genius to me, I have manipulated? ... PLEASE! and that that admission to the pedi, 15 je je je ... You have flattened, and I'm glad you thought they would scare your messages ... Well, I think the theme of the forum can be titled THE GREAT TRICK (of cash, ji ji ji) or MUTIS by the Forum (the participants, je je je), if dear, I did not paticipais, you are as it is commonly says "with its tail between its legs" ... What if we disintegrate this Forito? uuuppppsssssssss, wow how long |
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hello "numerary" trying to prove you're numerary. "Whether you are interested in what people of this forum think of you?. In my opinion not even measure up. Probably not let you whistle of cash. Maybe that has traumatized you and now live here in this forum your fantasy, your dream. Here you are who you want to be. Right?
On the other hand is very inconsistent to say you do not want to lose two or three minutes late here and I see that you are one of the most assiduous of the forum.
Do not have more important things to do and dedicate yourself to your work, ministry, etc.? In my time at work internet did not exist yet, but if I had the possibility of using dedicated I would not have to send little messages in which they actually say nothing.
Sorry, I do not know what you play in this forum, I really think you're the enemies of Opus Dei because the image you give here is bad and hard. Surely in real life also would give a bad image and so you would not beep.
Finally, do not stop saying "we close the forum." Ok, quit it. |
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numerary to
in another forum and said I was not interested in debating with you, because I think you're a bit unbalanced. I'm still firm in my decision.
I write to tell you that if you got your intervention with the nickname "nic" means ... good, that you waste time ... thought to explain it, but I do not want...
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