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Hello everyone, I'm Miranda and I have 15 years. I am new to this forum but despite being quite young, unfortunately a lot about the opus.
I live in an autonomous region of Spain where the contrast between opusiana domination and terrorism is quite remarkable. People dressed in cassock opus on the street and look bad to almost anyone who crosses them in front.
I believe that is an authentic opous legal sect that is beginning to take power in Spanish society. If I had to describe the opus, I would say they are the fans of Christianity. As has been said about religious fanaticism of the Arab countries, the twin towers and all that we're tired of seeing on television, do not understand why we have to criticize them if we have people in Spain do the same, (it is true that opus not commit attacks or kill people), but are fans of Christianity and see their religion as a way to dominate people.
Q I have to wonder against opus if I only have 15 years. Well, the city where I live and what I have to do every day is already a source of hatred. My family is very religious and my parents are not (or will) the opus. It should not hate these people so dedicated to humanitarian and charitable preach the good news of god?
The answer is simple. Here, I have met people my age to their parents because of this sect force them to believe in it and send them to schools where educators with these principles, which I think is illegal, force everyone to think what a priest because God requires it says. 
My boyfriend goes to one of these colleges, but his case is different because his parents sent him there only by the level of the center and not because they believe in the opus or are of the "little work". 10 months ago that we are together and we know quite well, but I could see as he had brainwashed and had instilled as he principles of the sect despite not believe it.
He had taught at women who can not touch us and if it is a sin that God will punish (God does not forgive the sins?) All people opus seems repressed and weak personality to be persuaded by the cult because has no incentive to better their life or because he sees it as a solution to their problems.
My boyfriend is still in that school, and I can count as force him to go to Mass, praying rosaries and has to confess against his will, (All this is included in the law as a crime, because you can not force anyone a believer and less manipulating ideas of a less because my boy is 16).
Another thing that I have seen is the hypocrisy of all the people in my opus.A seems great that a person chooses to be in the play, it being clearly understood that this is only an opinion and I'm not picking on anyone I But I myself have seen how people's opus have been friends of mine and helped me with my problems just for the purpose of "capturing" and that when they saw that they could not have passed me and pretend that I know of anything when I find them on the street. Their great friendship is just for interest.
I think the people of the work just look for their own benefit and the leaders of it what they want is to live at the expense of all their "faithful pringadillos" following the play as if they were living in it. Christian charity, helping others, tolerance and all those values that is spoken in the Bible and that Jesus taught in his day, stay low to the selfishness and the desire of power once you get in the opus . make it very clear that my all opusianos / as they are nothing but a "modern inquisition" whose only desire is to dominate the village and live a rich four counts of patsies who follow the teachings of their superiors have 10 and 20 children to which they can not keep.
Finally, (but not in last place), I would like to thank all that you make this forum possible for letting express ourselves freely without censoring anything, and for giving us this freedom to which all are entitled. I wish someone would give me his opinion writing me at Miranda Thank you all for your interest in my opinion.
Besazos, Bye
Miranda 
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Marcelo, again I will offer a viewpoint different from yours ... It is true that in the centers of the opus are told to adolescents of freedom, responsibility, to live the virtues, to be saints ... but just as true that they are coerced (refer, for example, experience pitaj Iggy, which I think is a story without waste, and frightening at the same time, so terrible and real) to "see" their vocation. .. Granted, not all, only to "pitables" those who can provide better service (proselytizing work or economic).
They are also taught to hide things from parents (as a vocation and the decision to have "taken?) Because they would not understand and could still stagger or not to persevere (Q: The first argument used against the reproductive health laws is that teenagers can get contraception without parental consent. According wrong, but ... is not the same as when they make a decision that sets the direction for life and not even the can tell the parents?).
They are also taught to instrumentalize friendship, right in those years where there are large groups of friends, sincere and selfless ... The small ones are lost numeraries evolutionary important part in his life, because natural aprtan group at his school , neighborhood or club, to "treat" at pitables on call, or make plans for the sole purpose of proselytizing ...
Okay all? It is good for teen? It is fair and legal?
Lola
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Lola2002,
I may, I would like to answer you privately by e-mail, because the answer is mia longa and "particular". I do this?
Thank you,
Marcelo |
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Marcelo, of course I accept that you have your own opinion, but how can be good for a teenager to be taught what he said Lola?.
Using friendship to get confessions which are then used to put more the teenager in Opus separating it from external influences. Pressure and coercion to come in and scare people not to leave. Censoring information based on their own interests rather than the needs of adolescents. There are many witnesses who claim to have endured all this and more aggression, how can all this be good for a teenager?. |
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Lola2002,
I changed my mind. I decided to go on the forum. May all be happy and content ...
Anyway, I appreciate the interest in my opinion. For the last time, I'll give um different view to yours.
(Look, I have no illusions of convincing, nor do I argue).
Yes, the experience of Iggy causes pain.
But I do not know is that experience is enough to generalize to the whole Work. That is, this does not happen in all cases, or think that happens very rarely granted.
You like anecdotes, no? I tell one, who has spent com a girl, my dear.
She, this girl had to wait long to ask for admission because, as she had had sex with her boyfriend and an abortion at 17 years-desperately silly and was not appropriate for it outside of work ... She has waited about 8 years before he was allowed to ask for admission.
Therefore, this girl has "blown" at least 25 years com.
And mind you, not coerced into it "beep", but she has waited 8 years to allow him to seek admission.
I think the opus, when they have heard of abortion, have NOT ATERIAL S AFETY this girl from above, as if they had the truth and she (the girl abortion) was wrong and was a poor thing. Made to wait to ask for admission as a precaution, because abortion, perhaps you do not know, cause a lot of depression and psychological trauma.
This girl, Madam, tell him not to hide from his parents, because she was good too old (25 years) and has also blown as supernumerary, not cash.
If you have spoken to this girl from proselytizing, but also told her not to instrumentalize friendship, something that could happen is not well understood charity and apostolate.
This girl, my love, over time, have said she had no vocation. At first she thought he had despised. But then thanked, because it had no vocation, the best was not followed in the Work. It would be terrible, having no vocation, he was forced to stay inside. His life would be hell um. ..
Only had a vocation and not enough. They have not considered better or worse than others. Vocation is God's call. No one can give or withdraw their vocation, but the Lord.
This is the story of uma amiga mia. La mia you already know. But you've forgotten, I remind you that:
1) I have not been coerced;
2) Pite com 15 years, but I lost youth (on the contrary!)
3) when I left the opus, I have not felt "out of the doorstep";
4) when I left, I have continued my professional work;
5) I have not been abandoned, though each has outros interests;
6) I am not manipulated (though you insist em say yes);
7) I've been unfaithful and Soberbo (superbi?? - I have great difficulties em ... you know Spanish)
Kisses.
I am no better nor worse than you.
Your no worse or better than me.
We are neither better nor worse than others.
God loves us, that He forgive us and bless us.
Besos, um big hug,
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22 October de 2002 at 22:49:07
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Marcelo, you like the song "you're going and you go and you have gone ..."
What a bore you because you repeat your message in all subjects as if we were fools and had to read it several times to understand.
Fare thee well ... May you get over your guilt so horrible! |
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Marcelo, if you want to send me an email with everything you can think of me, and talked privately. My address is: lolita584@latinmail.com
And if you can find me on icq which no appears under my signature.
I wrote that I answer!
See you!!!!! 
Lola
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Marcelo, if you want to send me an email with everything you can think of me, and talked privately. My address is: lolita584@latinmail.com
And if you can find me on icq which no appears under my signature.
I wrote that I answer!
See you!!!!!
Lola
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