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No waste! (Ma. Angustias Moreno)
 Hinchado!
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 Published 21 October de 2002 at 20:50:24    

Esto es sólo una partecita, al que le interese seguir leyendo puede ir a http://www.mgr.org/ODangustiasEsp.html
Qué lo disfruten!!!!!!

. El padre se sentía tocado del dedo divino

There was no opening to the outside. The rest was a strange and dangerous, watch out priests that can do harm to the herd, because they are wolves. The Good Shepherd is in, is the father, and the priests of the Work are fully conditioned. That is, the freedom of the priests of the work is minimal, because right away so the censors, removed from the more or less public tasks within the Work. All this is consistent with the Gospel. One of the things that are quite significant for me is that he aoutodetermina the Good Shepherd. He was the Good Shepherd of the Work.

"If my daughters do you do what I tell you ye shall be holy. What I tell you, do not read the Gospel. The person who leaves the work is out of the boat will be the dark: I do not give their soul or five cents. "
I mean, all he was, his words, his m essage. So no wonder if a time willing to say, "Well, here, where is the word of God?"
That yes, he said everything in God's name, stood in person touched by the divine finger, which also happened to Hitler, which is nothing new. Touched by the divine finger to talk to others in the name of God and for society and the Church had a solution, because Sinel enían no solution.

"The Iglsia is corrupted, the devil got to its highest levels. My children, only Opus can save her."
 
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 Published 21 October de 2002 at 21:00:34    

Lola2002,
how many nicks you use?
(ie, what other nicks you use besides "LOLA2002"?)
Marcelo
 
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 Published 21 October de 2002 at 21:18:37     

From now on, plus I'm going to subtitle Lola "Buddha" ... As for your recommendation?
One question: you also worked on the compu, or you are "wasting time" with the forum?
LOLA, Buddha or as you like!!!!!!

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 Published 21 October de 2002 at 21:21:16    

Does it matter to see ceporro: if this is a forum, is for you to express your opinion with your words, not cut and paste (you do not even have chopped the text) articles of such distress, publication and otherwise as we all know, criticism is well with the Work. That you do, invited, is called "intellectual dishonesty". But then, you know, the end justifies the means ... A greeting
 
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 Published 21 October de 2002 at 21:26:14    

Totally agree with Evaristo, more critical need to copy the hair shirt, tooooooo much
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 11:04:56    

Evaristo, not if you've noticed that here there are different people with different opinions, no two sides. The inconsistency between the opinion of those people are the basics so you can have dialogue, but using these contradictions as arguments seems to me to have other intentions, and certainly one of them is not wanting to contribute anything.
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 13:37:37    

Lola2002 (BUNDA)

You asked me: "you also worked on the compu, or you are" wasting time "with the forum?"

I also work in "pc", but I am wasting my time ... like you, because you should be on the pc "working" rather than inward in the forum ...

In addition, I have no pattern ... I am.

You work?
Well then, I'm going to shit. And I remember you ...

Bye,
Kisses.
Marcelo
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 13:40:36    

Lola, o Bunda,

Lola = Hinchado!??

I await your answer.
Marcelo
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 13:49:53     

The thing that influenced the thinking of the opus is difficult to understand that there are two sides ... not supported different opinion, if anyone thinks different (in "major") is indicative of bad spirit. There is a frightening uniformity (saw that even use the same "slang" ... yet I get some when I speak).
It is customary to hold talks with freedom (as Ulysses argues so well in another topic) ...
An anecdote: When trying to bring a friend (it was a good friend of mine before, and thought I was of strange since I knew the play, but she still loved me and be my friend ...) to the opus, and I had accompanied once a center where he was re-uncomfortable, because she had just lost her father and was making a psychological therapy and posted a video "of our father," where he mocked those who need psychologists, that all important was a good confession (almost 20 years later I remember the time that day and for much longer, "erased" from my head) ... A Cris (my friend) re-fell ill, told me, and ready. .. We're still friends ... Once we travel together to another city, and I, with apologies, I did accompany me to the work center is not what ... The idea was to go to a meditation. When we serve (a typical numerary) Cris tells me: these are all the same!
It's silly, but it is the impression of the opus in common and normal people.
Kisses to all!!!!

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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 13:59:25    

Without contempt!
Evaristo, Marc (your sticker), we are with the same old thing.
Why do not we comentais the text, or you answer questions at the forum, instead of escaquearos c / disquisitions on intellectual property law and other bullshit?
It would be more constructive and compromising, of course.

Saludos
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 14:18:45    

Lola2002, (o Bunda)
You have answered me:
Lola2002 = Bloated?
Yes or no?
Marcelo
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 15:21:07    

You are absolutely right, EVARISTO
Evaristo: you're absolutely right. Like I said yesterday about Aceprensa I stand with the article by M. A. Moreno. A forum is to discuss (or expose) own opinions, not cut and paste foreign texts. If these items are very interested, send to them.
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 21:08:40    

If you bothered to share some opinions of third parties would recommend to make the same criticism of who inserted a very long and boring homilies of Bishop Echevarría.
 
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 Published 22 October de 2002 at 21:15:17    

Lola2002,

I changed my mind. I decided to go on the forum. May all be happy and content ...

Anyway, I appreciate the interest in my opinion. For the last time, I'll give um different view to yours.
(Look, I have no illusions of convincing, nor do I argue).
Yes, the experience of Iggy causes pain.
But I do not know is that experience is enough to generalize to the whole Work. That is, this does not happen in all cases, or think that happens very rarely granted.
You like anecdotes, no? I tell one, who has spent com a girl, my dear.
She, this girl had to wait long to ask for admission because, as she had had sex with her boyfriend and an abortion at 17 years-desperately silly and was not appropriate for it outside of work ... She has waited about 8 years before he was allowed to ask for admission.
Therefore, this girl has "blown" at least 25 years com.
And mind you, not coerced into it "beep", but she has waited 8 years to allow him to seek admission.
I think the opus, when they have heard of abortion, have NOT ATERIAL S AFETY this girl from above, as if they had the truth and she (the girl abortion) was wrong and was a poor thing. Made to wait to ask for admission as a precaution, because abortion, perhaps you do not know, cause a lot of depression and psychological trauma.
This girl, Madam, tell him not to hide from his parents, because she was good too old (25 years) and has also blown as supernumerary, not cash.
If you have spoken to this girl from proselytizing, but also told her not to instrumentalize friendship, something that could happen is not well understood charity and apostolate.
This girl, my love, over time, have said she had no vocation. At first she thought he had despised. But then thanked, because it had no vocation, the best was not followed in the Work. It would be terrible, having no vocation, he was forced to stay inside. His life would be hell um. ..
Only had a vocation and not enough. They have not considered better or worse than others. Vocation is God's call. No one can give or withdraw their vocation, but the Lord.
This is the story of uma amiga mia. La mia you already know. But you've forgotten, I remind you that:
1) I have not been coerced;
2) Pite com 15 years, but I lost youth (on the contrary!)
3) when I left the opus, I have not felt "out of the doorstep";
4) when I left, I have continued my professional work;
5) I have not been abandoned, though each has outros interests;
6) I am not manipulated (though you insist em say yes);
7) I've been unfaithful and Soberbo (superbi?? - I have great difficulties em ... you know Spanish)
Kisses.
I am no better nor worse than you.
Your no worse or better than me.
We are neither better nor worse than others.
God loves us, that He forgive us and bless us.
Besos, um big hug,
Marcelo
 
 
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