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The truth is that I stumbled into this page. I wanted to tell me a little more about Opus Dei, but you are really scaring me. I do not know if the page is American and different things happen there, but the fact is that, I guess if they should have perhaps too strict rules .. weno .. I am telling you no more.
Now, I've always had of Opus as something touching the boundaries of sect .. pq more than anything in 8th when we got to choose paths to take in college, we talked about the Efas with some suspicion, as q were going to wash the head. But after that I forgot I existed. Later, I learned of q people belonged to that organization, kerais prelature or call, for example. bco director. My neighbor the third .. etc. Normal people.
Well, my relationship until there was only hearsay.
Then I met a boy, a boy majisima, super normal, like we all go, with his girlfriend, his ideas of waiting until marriage to do so (which did not seem odd q, pq tb I thought I like and do not consider myself a freak ). We became friends .. and good .. something else. And the truth is you let me  because despite all the ideals q q are or are supposed Christians follow, the first thing she said when q q I still did not know he belonged to Opus and went with them was that they were normal people, like any other and that therefore they had the same defects and failed us as q, q important thing was getting up. And believe me if I tell anyone fail as q, q are able to flout the rules without q be punished or anything even knowing it their superiors, pq boy now that is my "lover" with what it entails q lies, horns .. etc, and despite aq sabe q lo q hare (or do) is not well, and try to do things as God sends q aunke ever rises again to fall, remains (or continue) a person as another, with temptations, q and q if one take a joke about God will cast no more, and still feel the same respect. Only he has chosen to believe otherwise, aunke lgo drop as everyone. So .. q think we are out of place it is Opus q .. or kiza .. me getting caught are adept   not, but I I have been to see any movie, read any book and talk about all topics, and invitations to such meetings, telling us things when they go on retreat, inviting us to pilgrimages, and never keep anything secret q belongs to Opus, and besides .. about people are the q tb. I do not know. The case is q not think .. if you believe what I read or what I see. |
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| Hi We are a group of friends had a friend and Q Q ES DEL OPUS BELIEVE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: He belongs to a wealthy family and Numbered 24 years who is very proud D GO TO MASS AND DEFINED AS A BOY VERY TRADITIONAL , HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR HIS FATHER AND BIBLE HAS A HOME IN A SHOWCASE presided over by His SALON, sexist mentality HAVE UNION AND DISCLAIMS ANY RELIGIOUS Q NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A GREAT OBSESSION Q FORM A LARGE FAMILY FOR GOOD TO FIRST START OVER TO LEAVE WITH A GIRL CASUAL OPUS D FAMILY AND FRIENDS GROUP D OR NOT WE KNOW WHERE HAS KNOWN, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE TB Q BELONG TO WORK AND IT HAS HAD TO SEE THAT UNION Q? |
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In loving opusino:
You'll see that your "lover" will no longer be prontito Opus ...
From mob just ask,
Go on with your girlfriend? And you will banks that?
Opus wanted to defend or attack? ... |
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In this forum you can read many things about Opus, of course is you that you have to draw your own conclusions, but other than that you find this guy very normal (normal is what the majority, not necessarily correct) note that belonging to that organization has a number of ideas and principles, if not met or have to leave or perhaps to become one of those who manipulate others.
As for your relationship with you would talk about the questions you answer your own or on the make and serves your own conclusions: "If you changed your mind about premarital sex, it puts it to his girlfriend?, "She would marry a woman who has had the experience that you are having with it?, you accept the use of pastile control pills, condoms etc. ...?. |
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Let's see .. nor praise or criticize him, simply put keria q another point of view tell me if this is normal. If members fail to q can preach. Not if you understand me. Follow up with his girlfriend .. and of "lovers" is somehow single-hearted, thinking, words .. but without the work .. or having arrived .. but with a kiss .. a caress. E trying to do things right, or a relationship or the other. Q Keria really would tell me if Opus is as harmful as you say, or just plain rumors. A besete for all. |
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Let's see .. I know that the condom does not approve it .. not told directly by him, but with hints.
Premarital sex before there looked good, but I would not mind now q .. And if q q marry someone had had the, provided that he has been with the course.
Y.. nothing more, their relationship with me if q is known that his spiritual Noseque talk every week, and q does is advise you how .. or be with me or leave me a .. but always the last word is yours. |
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Listen and you have me really acojonao 
Let's see, now I'm putting q, q you would you do?.
I'm 27, I partner, is 28 and also has a couple, we met, we fell in love without realizing it, and the thing was every day a little more, each still with your partner, but we think in the other, and we love if we can not express it as we would like. Besides all the problems that this alone will lead .. q adding this you have just tell me .. Opus is in your life.
I think I need a psychologist 
Well before we met and we were happy in our lives, now .. everything is different .. and also morally .. do not think that is easy to change your ideals from one day to another and realize that you are unfaithful to the guy who is your boyfriend and we plan to live your life. |
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vaya lios de pareja!!!
opus NOT AGREE TO ANYTHING infidelity, either emotional or physical. if someone belongs to Opus Dei has a duty and an obligation to explain everything he thinks and feels to two people: his priest and spiritual director. with the priest there are two parts: the confession and spiritual direction. as we come to, that person is honest with the two MANDATORY. if anyone has doubts "emotional" and those two characters are in charge of solving them, because freedom in the opus dei THERE. authority exists, guidelines, laws that must be followed and who is or is not as long or longer. there are nuances in the opus dei, unfortunately. if you explain guys who have mistresses (of whatever kind) does not last long in the opus. There is no room for them (unless they have a lot of money, then lengthen them a little life while they release opusina money)
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I was surprised to read your experience, because it happens that I am living a very similar if not identical, and as you entered this page to learn about Opus (although I did not read what has surprised me I've read, because I studied in a center of them).
I also met a guy majisima, with a girlfriend, that at no time was I hid the fact that Opus. At first I had some apprehension and avoided a bit because the link is not (and will) the first person I know of the Work and be the carrying out proselytizing. But it so happened that I went through a critical time and was what helped me most was it for interest? Did some ulterior motive? really do not know. What I did was trust that has always respected that I did not share many of his ideas. Anyway that friendship is passed to another kind of love, and he did nothing to stop it. Each time you ever had a chance to see us avoid physical contact with me, unlike (say which was the most released). Now then, as you explain it, never beyond kissing and fondling (but not a question of going into details, not the topic of the forum)
And of course, that eventually you create a lot of doubts, knowing that it belongs where it belongs. I do not know if she has told a spiritual director, he always claims that human weaknesses are, and always tried to combine their ideas with their principles (say, a form of justification) really what's going wrong with this theme, and I attempt to distance because I do not like seeing him with remorse, but will not let me gets angry whenever someone checks that aconseja.Pero you know there'll come a time when you advise him.
Anyway, all this is to tell the person who initiated the topic that I understand perfectly, and that is not the only case. Many times I thought it was curious to know what they have not known ...
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From what I know of Opus but have a very strict moral approaches are easily skipped entirely if satisfaction is not just physical (the typical idea of patriarchal relationships). I know of cases of men belonging to Opus had lovers who are married and have remained as long as possible using all their knowledge of manipulation (many acquired in the Opus), obviously the people from whom I speak are certain age and usually quite young looking girls, but such relationships have always had something in common: absolute secrecy, use of knowledge of the other person for other reasons, to separate it from the relationships that can have that person who can separate from maintaining with them. Well, something like what is done with members of Opus.
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In my case is not an elderly person, but if I agree on the issues of maintaining the status quo in secrecy and the desire to turn away from other relationships (do not say it openly but advises you not "what right "for you) |
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| I sincerely believe that you are taking things crazy. A member of Opus Dei is lacking a certain order (which is the whole Church, not only of Opus Dei) does not mean that all members take a double life. As always, the end always get lost in silly little things then we are worth the title of aftertaste. To you, my dear lover "opusino" I wonder if you feel very comfortable knowing that the person with whom you turn your relationship partner. All this regardless of whether or not he is a member of the Work. As one famous line here in Spain, to criticize the Opus "is not that, not that." |
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| I do not know if I understood well, but I think what was being debated in this forum topic is not the morality of those who go out with someone who is single or not but the fact that the victim belonged to Opus. It presents a situation, he wondered about it (because really all the talk if already created doubts in such a situation, the more doubts are created in this case). At least I do not see this as an issue taken out of context |
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Guys, do not fight the truth ... But if someone's opus is a lover or not is a matter of opus, but that person, his girlfriend and her "lover" ... It's like having a pimple on the nose ... has nothing to do with the opus, but with the consciousness of that particular person ... That double life is not something that is promoted in the play, much less, so that guy, or end with the parallel story or cease to be the opus ... (although that does not fix his moral problem) because they are not living the sincerity ...
Un besito!!! 
Lola
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Well, I think, in my opinion, if already in the Work you "advocate" with whom you go and with whom not only because they also belong to the Work or not (I know many cases are not isolated cases) and to induce some shape to this "double life" that is spoken here: the right person to lead a family life that is often which is love. And who is scandalized because .. is not the first issue that this forum has offended someone right?  Anyway, tell the "lover" if you get that you're part of the Work and have a past of those who considered "above reproach" it may leave your girlfriend. Let it or leave work or involved you in it, and if not, double life "?... A little sad  |
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Well .. Here I am again (the lover) I q you can call me Eve. Watch .. q someone told me he had experienced something similar, the truth is q is not the only consolation. Well .. on the other hand .. The asking me to leave my partner and demanding his leave to be together. And it goes really bad knowing that things are not done so, just as I pass. Do not believe that my idea in life was to have a lover .. rather it never could have thought. And I belong to me, the truth, not your thoughts, but I guess that respects mine.
And another thing .. Love is blind  no lo olvideis. |
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