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09 June de 2002 at 01:42:54
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And sleeping on a table? Bathe in cold water? Unable to wear bikinis because it is impure? Unable to read your books even without consulting the Facu (not to mention movies)? Not having private correspondence (as the director reads everything that comes and goes)? Unable to say something that did not like the opus to a friend without checking with the director? Unable to talk to your roommates when you go to sleep because you're in the "night time"? Etc, etc, etc
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yo tengo una pregunta...
Why when you tell a numerari @ @: "do not write letters because I read the correspondence" lately you laugh and say, "my long ago I do not worry, I assure you not going to read anyone else but me. " and I know that's a lie. definitely are capable of lying to protect their practices. to definitely justify the means in the opus.
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In line with this, has anything changed since the work is at the forefront Don Javier?
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That may have changed 
It remains mandatory daily use barbed wire in the body - sackcloth-and self-flagellation - disciplines - is still not agreeing mandatory for a week if someone comes up to talk to a priest other than the opus. It is still required to read only books with approval of the opus (thus are their own universities, to segregate), remains binding not talk to your parents and closest friends when you get into your head the theme of "vocation" is still obligatory to believe that "whoever does not believe in the Church and the Trinity" is condemned to eternal fire, still believes that he is not the opus dicifilmente be saved. Go on and on and continue looking for what is not conquered with gold and silver, still following the human and ecclesial power. In short: They still do not understand that the kingdom of God is within us.
And they dismiss their opponents smart deemed "Masons, atheists and communists."
I do not consider any of those three things. I am a practicing Catholic and well. But still, I raise for them the prayer of Jesus: "Forgive them for they know not what they do ..." |
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11 June de 2002 at 20:31:21
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 I did not know what you can not communicate a week if you confess to another priest ... He never told me!
Until recent years, women could not wear pants (and now, it hac in, but 2 sizes larger !!!!)
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Regarding corporal mortification, I think it is also practiced in religious orders (in fact, told me that the hair shirts and disciplines were purchased from the convents of nuns).
Now, I think his spirit (the nuns) should be different, because to me, particularly corporal mortification never gave me humility, rather self-hating and condemning myself to say the S & M (that of given to the disciplines in the buttocks in the toilets of the center).
Y lo de las tablas para dormir para las mujeres, la verdad que no encuentro explicación alguna... |
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| also my hair shirts here told me that they were bought from nuns who themselves manufactured. in fact when they gave me, I did pay. I do not remember if 500 or 800 pta. I was 14 years and this practice was atrocious, but was to "holy" and that was an indispensable means to achieve it. what I felt then I'd rather not remember. what do expect is that everybody who gave me and advised and consciously or unconsciously, I was persuaded and forced to wear sackcloth and disciplines, I being a minor, one day have great regret, unconscious! they did it thinking it was what he had to do, who acted as programmed machines or puppets with a purpose: to serve the work, expand your mind ... but these people were instrumental in the sect that I use to Cilicia. It is that if ordered, I have to give the hair shirt and if they do not "missing the spirit of home" to disobey. why I feel very sorry for all numerari l @ s @ s, rather than what they do themselves (they know ... and until we realize there will continue to do the "Paripe") for the harm they do to be used as instruments of "training" (which is actually DEFORMATION), even they imagine the psychological damage that this "distorting training" so zealously taught and for which ell @ s spend all their energies can be reached between their cause "victims". if it finally turns out that one day we will be judged, I hope there If there is justice. and who has physical or mental harm to others, especially minors, I hope to be taken into account in the famous trial. because down here is not taken into account ANYTHING! that the pope does not know and makes holy the founder of a sect that does nothing more than "hurt" a lot of people right from the earliest youth. |
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