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What if we stand among those who decided to leave "Home", telling our experiences and how we were going forward? On the one hand, and we feel it is the one that happened to us, and we're also "normalizing" (my friends tell me that I had become rare, closed, and out of the world) I think?
Whoever starts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Lola2002 |
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I forgot!! Promote this page, but beware, that there were other forums and help people who left Opus Dei, and "mysteriously" were deleted from the web
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Nobody? 
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| alejandra |
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Hello Lola: What a good idea you have. It's good to communicate with the ex opus this way so we can share thoughts, concerns and perspectives of this wonderful life that is outside the sect.
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| Lola2002 |
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You were in the play?
Long ago you left?
It was tough out?
Sorry to ask so if you want to talk privately, by mail, because it gives me some "thing" to give my details on the forum, because it happened that there was another and "disappeared" ...
I think the 2 are in Latin America, no?
A kiss!
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| alejandra |
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If I was of the sect - called AT spade a spade - for several years. If I am a Latin American music.
When I want to talk in private so you do not asustasdelas ... "reprisals".  |
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| Lola2002 |
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Dale! My mail is lolita584@latinmail.com
Long ago you left? Numerary or supernumerary Eras? Or added?
Not that living in fear, but I know people who lost jobs go (and not the time, at least in Argentina).
I would love for Charles ... Un beso!
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| Lola2002 |
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Page www.odan.org know? It is in English, but you can translate...
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Help!
I am a numerary who wishes to be home, and until I have reached Hacho extreme case I have, I like to go from good, but not if this is possible, now they say I'm an immature with a high degree of immaturity.
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Hi Eli:
Lean on people who really love you - not for narrow interests - but for yourself. 're Sorry you're going through distressing. My suggestion is that whatever you do must be for conviction. Neither I nor anyone else can tell you what to do. Only you should look inside your heart - yours, not the opus or any stranger might have caused you to believe it is your heart - to know that you do in your life. Only the truth will set us free. And only you can love freely, to yourself first and neighbor later.
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| Lola2002 |
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Eli, How did you find this forum?
If you're not being happy takes lna appropriate decision ... I think all I can say is that life continues outside the opus and you can be re-happy! Do not believe the stories of those who are ruining the lives they are never happy (as the young man of the gospel ... you said that?)
I am happy and living my life a thousand! And I'm still a practicing Catholic, and I have thousands of friends and you no longer have to walk about concealing things that I rarely create or giving explanations to others to "be faithful".
Besos y suerte!!!! De dónde sos?
Lola
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I found this forum searching for the network.
and if I have said a thousand times what the rich young man.
I told you that I want nothing from them, and do not call me. currently doing well ...
I'm from Spain, if they are ordered by mail.
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Hello, Eli
I regret to tell you so, but will not let you "right." They're going to call all, will try any kind of blackmail, by ruins that might be for you to stay, they'll tell you to wait longer ...
It is a cult. They do not care which one leaves, because maybe other people who are not comfortable, but they dare not give the pass. So I have to paint it out of the Opus as something horrible, and they do as traitors, people who are leaving the track to go straight to hell.
If you've decided you want to go, contrary to his opinion, calling you "immature" seems a cruel joke. In contrast, someone who makes his own decisions is a more mature, more adult than someone who just does what they say.
Know that if you've decided to quit, you have my full support. Many friends as you want, and your happiness depends on what you tell the leaders of the sect.
On the other hand, leave the Opus does not necessarily mean giving up some Christian values or beliefs.
You keep believing, and continue your relationship with the church. The choice is yours.
Or not ever return to practice, or not believe ...
A good thing about life is to have freedom of choice to do what you want.
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| Today I noticed this great page, lots of people who has left the opus, and live as I a exclavitud, that's not what I'm up in the family members. I am ex-supernumerorario, the day was the day I go over my life, but are complicated to me and my family. |
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Hello everyone.
I think one of the most important things of this forum is that we can help many boys and girls who have a bad time for having taken the decision to leave the opus.
I would say more to go "home" is returning home to care for our birth parents and blood brothers and have true friends and friends free of prejudice, without thinking that I must convince them to make the opus and as culpabe feel not to be part of that machinery of coercion.
I compare, having belonged to Opus for 4 years, my stay in this group as having had a girlfriend who wanted but we did not get along well, for example did not get along with the mother (the directors and their control over the minds each) and whose character was revealed gradually showing facets did not know (the votes, or whatever they're called now, the lack of privacy in things like your mail or your books, even your thoughts!). Moreover, this bride was that he wanted it all the time devoted to it without leaving me room to myself (everything revolves around the opus, from which you wake up until you get up) and I could not or rather pushed me to keep seek my own fulfillment as a person who was entitled. I finally said that she will never change and that if the left would be an unfortunate with that which I received in his arms.
Well, not a soap opera, but like love goes, that girl is already forgotten and I have known one that is quite the opposite.
For those who are in that transition can tell you that life goes on, they are not alone, there are many who are going through the same thing right now and many (the majority) that we overcame.
The key is honesty with oneself, not to deceive, be brave, be patient and once again enjoy the simple things like going to movies, read whatever you want, have any kind of friendship, go somewhere without asking permission. Also do not feel any guilt, you're not doing anything wrong, in the Ten Commandments there is not one that says: Do not go out of the opus (!). |
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| Eli numerary have a sister like you, when I could not but, I went there, and I said if you go, "God is not going to help," from that moment I decided to do the craziest of my life, go at good or bad. I remember I had to write a letter telling the reason why the left, I was told beforehand some reasons, not make the rules, doing spiritual direction ... I got that wanted to be happy and free. That's been nine years, I have a wife I love her dearly, and three children, who are about Hijaz to count. My sister now tells me that God is with me. I do not want, to have more things, I'm afraid of a little internet. Eli, Amim, that what God wants from us is that sincere with Him |
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