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What if we stand among those who decided to leave "Home", telling our experiences and how we were going forward? On the one hand, and we feel it is the one that happened to us, and we're also "normalizing" (my friends tell me that I had become rare, closed, and out of the world) I think?
Whoever starts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lola
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| Interestingly this forum. I want to know the way there so that one can propose a topic. Thank you. |
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hello all, this is my first participation in this forum, by the way, I am very, mmm I will tell you, no, but I am very pleased to have reached this place, I think it's fantastic, really, I apologize if achieving my thoughts, but when I started to read in the forums felt that all wanted to participate ... but I decided on this, for helping all ex opus, I will not dwell much, but I want your advice, as can see, I am ex agd (added for those not) was 20 months "House" I am scared now I read a message saying that he was told he had no vocation, as I said to myself, I also thought ( 'I think) what it takes to "beep" or someone to do it and then give you a kick .. Well, my problem is that even now, 4 years and 2 months after leaving the work, I keep thinking about that, and frankly, I want to return.... please help me!!!!  |
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A's see ... I do not know much to tell, because tre not know, but I think a good aid would go to make a brief therapy to help you see what you lack, which is what you ... The speech for speech therapy to make sense of life, even in pain ... I do not know, maybe you can help ...
How old are you? What things do you like? You have friends / you? A tip: Do not mourn for the "lost" and dispose yourself to live for the future, building what you have to live ... Life is fantastic, you must learn to enjoy it ...
Sorry, do not know what else to tell you, but MOOD! |
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GUEST Thanks for responding quickly, I found your opinions on many issues I find interesting ... ana truth good, thanks for trying to help. I can tell you that I am 22 about to turn 23, I like to do? mmmm, reading, sleeping and comeeeerrr Friends, first, the odd, the latter hardly believe that learning a "lifestyle "Work in and out of that is very difficult, you know I added and ZERO guys!
not mourn for the past? I've proposed many times, but my subconscious betrays me and brings me back to the past (and wish that time again) even against my will.
Well, tell you, what you have or had connection with the Work. De donde eres
Bye
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If you feel so good, why this space?
Those who leave, it is happening as the rich young man, I've seen many vees and some return to shelter under the shadow of Opus Dei. It is Christ himself who said that they do not follow vocción be sad, the Work only repeats what he told himself. |
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Hi Eli and hello all and all,
Well, if you want to leave home, do it now, be brave and not afraid. It's all right, unlike everything is composed. Even if you 'super good as was my case all seras modods after second person, that is not going to do if you or anyone you will find. My recommendation is that you take your things and go, call your parents or whoever you have more confidence and pick you up and ready !!!!!!!!!!!!
Animo ahead and much happiness that God loves us dearly in and out !!!!!!!!!
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HELLO dear ex-agd.
See only you can decide on something as intimate and important, I was cash and all I can say is that if you have big dreams, if you love God dearly, if you have this all day, if you do your work with Perfecccionamiento, You can also do all that and MUCH MUCH MORE, BUT BE OF OPUS DEI, WITHOUT BEING ADDED, I think you can probably do more, we can influence WORLDWIDE Catholics at all, at the disco, in the office, in the family, with the groom and not keeping and dial while in the midst of the world. If you believe yours is back, then go and be happy, but not the only way to surrender to God understands so do not be trick, if you leave the work can also be the favorite daughter of the Lord can be a light that illuminates it might be SANTA!
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MARUKITA: That speech !!!!!
No comment (that everyone draw their own conclusions)
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Hello everyone!
Como van? I hope well.
Well, thanks for your feedback SRG, are very interesting ... let me ask you something .. Why you're not the Work? you left or were you "tell me if ...
I am very clear that I can do many good things being or not of O, but as I said why do not I still think that if you can say almost not even close to God I am.
I am sure that I want is back, well, maybe so, but you know that this will not do no return, that was not my own that I went, plus as someone said there then or call you or coconut you get, but that he does not it?.
Well, I still think that this forum is very interesting .. greetings to all
"pax"
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Indeed marukita ...
as one "guest" of so many out there ... that speech.
Well it seems that you are still in the works and as you are from Guatemala, well, good for you that even you are from the Work (if any) and good, let this space? I think that for the same reason you came here ...
Not for everyone is the same because some people come here out of curiosity, others to find answers to so many questions that can be compared to Opus Dei.
Personally I look especially what he is proposing this topic: Support among Former opus, is not what happens to me the rich young man, because I do not regret anything, not even having blown (and even when I'm going through all this) I refused anything more, I simply told me it was not for me ..
Hey, now I realize something (I insist that good is this forum ... seriously helps to clarify many things) will convince you to go after that beep, do everything for you to live as they want, then send you to fly apart and then all they care little what happens to you ...
But now I feel worse, even realizing all this I still have the idea planted in my mind of wanting to return ...
I'm so stupid! (see the damage that does all that?)
marukita, you are saying?
Better still, you think your SRG?
well, saludos a todos, que esten bien ... |
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John Paul II has been found this morning in St. Peter's Square to those attending the canonization of Josemaria Escriva. "St. Josemaria the pope said in his speech" was chosen by God to proclaim the universal call to holiness and to indicate that the common activities that make up everyday life are a way of sanctification. You could say that was the saint of the ordinary. "
2002 of 07 of octubre
Rome, St. Peter's Square, October 7
! My dear brothers and sisters!:
With joy I address my cordial greetings on this day that follows the canonization of Blessed Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer. Thank S.E. Bishop Javier Echevarria, Prelate of Opus Dei, the words with the interpreter has been made of all present. I greet with affection the many cardinals, bishops and priests who wanted to participate in this celebration.
This festive meeting unites a variety of faithful from many countries and belonging to the most diverse social and cultural environments, priests and lay men and women, young and old, intellectuals and manual workers. Is this a sign of apostolic zeal that burned in the soul of St. Josemaria.
In the Founder of Opus Dei emphasizes love of God. There is a reliable criterion of holiness: faithfulness in fulfilling the divine will until the end. The Lord has a plan for each of us, each one entrusted with a mission on earth. The saint can not even imagine himself outside of God's plan: he lives only to realize it.
St. Josemaría was chosen by God to proclaim the universal call to holiness and to indicate that the common activities that make up everyday life are a way of sanctification. You could say that was the saint of the ordinary. In fact, he was convinced that, for those who live in a perspective of faith, everything offers an opportunity of meeting with God, everything becomes a stimulus for prayer. Seen in this light, daily life reveals an unexpected grandeur. Holiness is genuinely available to everyone.
Escriva de Balaguer was a saint of great humanity. All who knew him, from any culture or social status, it felt like a father, totally devoted to serving others, he was convinced that every soul is a wonderful treasure, in effect, each man is worth all the Blood of Christ . This attitude is evident in service delivery to the priestly ministry and in the magnanimity with which he championed many works of evangelization and human promotion for the poorest.
The Lord made him deeply understand the gift of our divine filiation. He taught us to contemplate the tender face of a Father in God speaking to us through the most varied vicissitudes of life. A Father who loves us, that we continue step by step and protects us, understands and expects each of us the answer of love. The consideration of this paternal presence, which accompanies him everywhere, gives the Christian an unquenchable confidence, at all times to trust the heavenly Father. Never feel lonely or afraid. On the Cross-when it occurs - is not a punishment but a mission entrusted by the Lord himself. The Christian is necessarily optimistic, because he knows he is the son of God in Christ.
Saint Josemaría was profoundly convinced that the Christian life entails a mission and a ministry, we are in the world to save with Christ. He loved the world passionately, "redemptive love" (cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 604). So his teachings have helped so many ordinary to discover the redemptive power of faith, their capacity to transform the earth.
This is a message that has abundant and fruitful implications for the Church's evangelizing mission.
Promotes the Christianization of the world "from within", showing that there can be no conflict between divine law and the demands of genuine human progress. This holy priest taught that Christ must be the apex of all human activity (cf. Jn 12:32). His message impels the Christian to act in places in which shapes the future of society. The active presence of lay persons in all professions and in the most advanced frontiers of development must necessarily derive a positive contribution to the strengthening of that harmony between faith and culture of our time is much needed.
St. Josemaria Escriva has spent his life in service of the Church. The priests, lay people who follow many different ways, the clergy and religious in his writings are a stimulating source of inspiration. Dear brothers and sisters, to imitate him with an open mind and heart, willing to serve at local churches, you are contributing to empowerment in the "spirituality of communion", indicated in the Apostolic Letter Novo Millennio Ineunte as one of the most important objectives for our time.
I am pleased to finish with a reference to the liturgical feast day, Our Lady of the Rosary. St. Josemaría wrote a beautiful book entitled Holy Rosary, which draws on spiritual childhood, provision of spirit of those who want to reach a total abandonment to the divine will. With all my heart I entrust to the maternal protection of Mary for all of you, your families and your apostolate, and I thank you for your presence.
I thank again all those present, especially those who have come from afar. I invite you, dear brothers and sisters to carry around a clear testimony of faith, according to the example and teachings of your holy Founder. I accompany you with my prayers and I cordially bless you and your families and your activities.
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Guys, if things are going to hit websites, do it in a separate topic, but is half lead ... If you see an interesting page, put the link and we refer there ... I think? It is to order a little for ...
Incidentally, the one with icq, I can send a message, and chat on line ...
Bye!
Lola
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Lola2002,
I changed my mind. I decided to go on the forum. May all be happy and content ...
Anyway, I appreciate the interest in my opinion. For the last time, I'll give um different view to yours.
(Look, I have no illusions of convincing, nor do I argue).
Yes, the experience of Iggy causes pain.
But I do not know is that experience is enough to generalize to the whole Work. That is, this does not happen in all cases, or think that happens very rarely granted.
You like anecdotes, no? I tell one, who has spent com a girl, my dear.
She, this girl had to wait long to ask for admission because, as she had had sex with her boyfriend and an abortion at 17 years-desperately silly and was not appropriate for it outside of work ... She has waited about 8 years before he was allowed to ask for admission.
Therefore, this girl has "blown" at least 25 years com.
And mind you, not coerced into it "beep", but she has waited 8 years to allow him to seek admission.
I think the opus, when they have heard of abortion, have NOT ATERIAL S AFETY this girl from above, as if they had the truth and she (the girl abortion) was wrong and was a poor thing. Made to wait to ask for admission as a precaution, because abortion, perhaps you do not know, cause a lot of depression and psychological trauma.
This girl, Madam, tell him not to hide from his parents, because she was good too old (25 years) and has also blown as supernumerary, not cash.
If you have spoken to this girl from proselytizing, but also told her not to instrumentalize friendship, something that could happen is not well understood charity and apostolate.
This girl, my love, over time, have said she had no vocation. At first she thought he had despised. But then thanked, because it had no vocation, the best was not followed in the Work. It would be terrible, having no vocation, he was forced to stay inside. His life would be hell um. ..
Only had a vocation and not enough. They have not considered better or worse than others. Vocation is God's call. No one can give or withdraw their vocation, but the Lord.
This is the story of uma amiga mia. La mia you already know. But you've forgotten, I remind you that:
1) I have not been coerced;
2) Pite com 15 years, but I lost youth (on the contrary!)
3) when I left the opus, I have not felt "out of the doorstep";
4) when I left, I have continued my professional work;
5) I have not been abandoned, though each has outros interests;
6) I am not manipulated (though you insist em say yes);
7) I've been unfaithful and Soberbo (superbi?? - I have great difficulties em ... you know Spanish)
Kisses.
I am no better nor worse than you.
Your no worse or better than me.
We are neither better nor worse than others.
God loves us, that He forgive us and bless us.
Besos, um big hug,
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Lola2002,
I changed my mind. I decided to go on the forum. May all be happy and content ...
Anyway, I appreciate the interest in my opinion. For the last time, I'll give um different view to yours.
(Look, I have no illusions of convincing, nor do I argue).
Yes, the experience of Iggy causes pain.
But I do not know is that experience is enough to generalize to the whole Work. That is, this does not happen in all cases, or think that happens very rarely granted.
You like anecdotes, no? I tell one, who has spent com a girl, my dear.
She, this girl had to wait long to ask for admission because, as she had had sex with her boyfriend and an abortion at 17 years-desperately silly and was not appropriate for it outside of work ... She has waited about 8 years before he was allowed to ask for admission.
Therefore, this girl has "blown" at least 25 years com.
And mind you, not coerced into it "beep", but she has waited 8 years to allow him to seek admission.
I think the opus, when they have heard of abortion, have NOT ATERIAL S AFETY this girl from above, as if they had the truth and she (the girl abortion) was wrong and was a poor thing. Made to wait to ask for admission as a precaution, because abortion, perhaps you do not know, cause a lot of depression and psychological trauma.
This girl, Madam, tell him not to hide from his parents, because she was good too old (25 years) and has also blown as supernumerary, not cash.
If you have spoken to this girl from proselytizing, but also told her not to instrumentalize friendship, something that could happen is not well understood charity and apostolate.
This girl, my love, over time, have said she had no vocation. At first she thought he had despised. But then thanked, because it had no vocation, the best was not followed in the Work. It would be terrible, having no vocation, he was forced to stay inside. His life would be hell um. ..
Only had a vocation and not enough. They have not considered better or worse than others. Vocation is God's call. No one can give or withdraw their vocation, but the Lord.
This is the story of uma amiga mia. La mia you already know. But you've forgotten, I remind you that:
1) I have not been coerced;
2) Pite com 15 years, but I lost youth (on the contrary!)
3) when I left the opus, I have not felt "out of the doorstep";
4) when I left, I have continued my professional work;
5) I have not been abandoned, though each has outros interests;
6) I am not manipulated (though you insist em say yes);
7) I've been unfaithful and Soberbo (superbi?? - I have great difficulties em ... you know Spanish)
Kisses.
I am no better nor worse than you.
Your no worse or better than me.
We are neither better nor worse than others.
God loves us, that He forgive us and bless us.
Besos, um big hug,
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ONE .... HE WAS LESS!, BUT THAT WAS PLAYED AVERAGE GUY ...
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