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Someone suggested this in another forum, and I know nothing about it, but beginning this space because if anyone has anything to substantiate it would be very interesting to say, besides terrible ...
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I have not desaperecido, I was out all day.
Tanit Well, I have never insulted, I have never disrespected, and everything retruco you think that in my opinion based on my experience is not correct. If I never forgive behemente last night but I have insulted. So we put the record straight.
I want to ask a question, the only ones who are eager, the only ones who are depressed, the only ones who are oppressed, the ones who take antidepressants are managers or directors or tenured or tenured. Please ......... live today is very stressful day, then please do not exaggerate. And much agree with his comment but Lola's comic TANIT pardon me is incredible, I do and please forgive if I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE ONE PILL NOT THE VOLUME,
What I like all the comments and I agree and I have lived is delicately OF THE WORK TO THE DISEASE, I've seen are cared for at home, I have seen more gestures of warmth and love in some normal families.
Tanit not agree with you does not mean to insult you. It is the duty of justice and me clarify things I do not care that you had been charged or not, because in the WORK NO CHARGES, is not understand it is this to serve the children of God and we are in this world to serve .
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| cazuelo |
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Selene: I beg a thousand pardons if I interpreted your words. Sorry. Kisses. Cazuelo.  |
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I have read the history of drugs and it surprises me it seems worse lie. I've been 5 years in the work as a member of San Rafael and family problems have been night and day with them, I know enough people, and know well, to my knowledge none have taken antidepressant pills or strange things may be Take a depression that really well because that account was wrong in his way (anything can happen q) and pq this tired from work or many other things, these people are listening, it sends her home to to reflect freely q wants to do and little more. Q roll suicide has been told forgives q q tell you what I think everyone has half a brain to know q wants to do in his life, neither more nor less.
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Dear Volo, actually 37 = poppy, when I checked I did not think a name, and now that I do not know how to change it, well that is not the issue.
As for what you ask me whether we turned off the light at a specific time, I would say yes, but ..., how curious! and I had forgotten that detail, just really clear that we would enter the clique to sleep and we were so tired that nothing needed to light, that's the truth. Well also went to that room to get the hair shirt, change clothes, etc..
I'll tell you one fact that you have no idea either: I do not know if it would make the (only) numeraries, but we numeraries Auxiliary (the younger sisters, the uneducated) we recorded periodically cabinets. I do not know which was the end, but one day I caught two priests, accompanied by a lady, passing through all the cliques of girls. It sounds so strange that I dare not know how to write it, sure someone will have to say I'm lying, I hardly think so and I, but I promise it's true.
Volo, is very good you do on the proposal to start a topic with the title: FURNITURE NUMERARY, but I think it would only appear the sign, how many of them think they can operate a computer? I get the impression that I am in miniría. Although, all things considered, not the OP, they no longer will have been vetoed culture. However, you may not want to recognized for what they were mere servants without aspirations for more.
Regards to all, and that, many said.
 
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although I already knew these stories, I read Tanith and I totally what it says.
about Marc: Are you the opus dei? Even "partner? although you have forbidden to speak, you can answer, and sincerely (remember the 8th)
to me personally, I resent what you say in the forum, Marc bother me like you tried to Tanit, even though you insist that you have not insulted, I think if you did.
write protect you and you continue to give light to treat well the people well.
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Come on, guys, not be angry. I do not think Marc has had no intention of insulting Tanit. Maybe it was a bit impetuous in his expressions but nothing more. What I interpret that as the history of Tanit, and told the sound so incredible, you feel little affection for the Work (or just pretend to be just that) you can move to outrage. I already expressed my refusal to believe that the standard work used by those systems referred to by Tanit (again stressed: no doubt have passed, but would have to discuss with many facts and circumstances which have passed). Greetings, and not angry. Moreover, if you go on like Evaristo to call four maxims, two metaphors of giant windmills and solves two theories you in a flash-plas. (Do not go to vex me, Evaristo is only to give a little salt to the subject). Cazuelo  |
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| Come on, guys, not be angry. I do not think Marc has had no intention of insulting Tanit. Maybe it was a bit impetuous in his expressions but nothing more. What I interpret that as the history of Tanit, and told the sound so incredible, you feel little affection for the Work (or just pretend to be just that) you can move to outrage. I already expressed my refusal to believe that the standard work used by those systems referred to by Tanit (again stressed: no doubt have passed, but would have to discuss with many facts and circumstances which have passed). Greetings, and not angry. Moreover, if you go on like Evaristo to call four maxims, two metaphors of giant windmills and solves two theories you in a flash-plas. (Do not go to vex me, Evaristo is only to give a little salt to the subject). Cazuelo |
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Dear Guest, would be too good not to identify yourself? I SUPERNUMERARIO, my family and I have a brother cash, a priest and a numerary. Rinse and, as if you needed to clarify Opinar.
What they have not understood and I said that because I answered firmly and behemente NOT insult anyone. I just say again that I do not believe a single letter from the roll with suicide and other things as TANIT account. Maybe if his clarification on the roll can understand better. You make me laugh because here are as settled that the only antidepressants that Tomam numeraries / as with a vocation crisis. I invite you to ask and look around and you'll see how many of our friends, relatives, acquaintances, work and take drugs are not the work.
Invited him to say "write" is written with vy type is not SAN Josemaria Escriva!!
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Dear Marc,
If anyone should 'scolding' for spelling mistakes is to you to write vehemently with 'b' when it is with 'v'.
The theme of Type versus Escrivá is more debatable. The real name of the founder of Opus Dei, Jose Maria Write Alba. He changed the original names for some reason. It might be interesting to discuss the reasons she had to change and give up their real names and especially his mother.
A warm and fraternal greetings.
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| carlos h |
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In my opinion this is one of the forums more positive about the OD, as they participate and feel "free" people who know a lot of the work (have been ex-members) and are expressed freely. Most web pages against the work are references to misplaced criticism, driven rather by blind or vision recentemente simply human. However, in this forum, I see quite constructive criticism in many reviews (partly because the training they received in Opus) and a common denominator in how the subjects focus (certainly retain the parameters in some way, which is something good: the training we have received).
There are many things that can only understand that we have gone through the work, and certainly as a revision of your life. Positively I think the excesses and bad things about the work should be covered by all the good things about it.
It is true, I think the book has many good things but also has many bad things should improve, are those that mention many of the participants and make it a big turnout. To those who have been mentioned I add a (could add 30 more) never understood that and did not seem "Good" if: the distrust that infuse against the Jesuits to be that some bad Jesuits Jesuits were wrong about the play, especially in its infancy implying that the devil is within that institution.
If the work you want to have more members and stop being stagnant and regain the momentum of his early years, much good it would do to make a mea culpa or correct what needs to be corrected as we learn from His Holiness John Paul II - repeatedly apologized, who also teaches us that the Internet is the new forum where information can lead to well-considered thought at people (like the ancient Roman Forum where the first Christians were expressed).
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Álvaro, the real name of the new saint was Jose Maria Escriba Albas.
As written here.
Greetings, Amapola
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| Sorry to leave unfinished my message, now I add, said that in a couple of occasions we met eight or nine people who had left home at different times, and for all I know, and I could see, in no case presented pathologies or strange behavior, caused by his stay in the Work, however some have excelled greatly in their profession. |
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Marc, I'm putting in all your little sentences cut to see if I've insulted or not. I do not see the forum interesting to be at loggerheads. I see more constructive q. expose our experiences and knowledge calmly, as we have lived.
Obviously our positions will always be irreconcilable. At no time during our interventions have you branded a liar or mentally disturbed because he exhibited an argument opposite to mine. No need to go that far.
You may or may not believe what I tell. For the fact that you do not fit because they may not have been in long enough or you have given orders for government, not q. necessarily false. Most of you understand a reaction of surprise q. of outright rejection. You close your band for no reason. That you may well not have lived this kind of experience but that does not tell you q.no may exist. And as it happens q. I have lived the sad experience and q. participate in these forums, I discuss. No more. I q. I explained the other day is true. It's true. I've lived. But I'm not hoarse because I take this not as a crusade. My happiness does not depend on the approval of the opus, luckily that's over.
Greetings to all
PD. You know good q. whether I q. I have been charged, is to clarify q. the director has more sources of information q. members walk. And therefore greater power handling over them.
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Dear Stew:
Clearly there Exemptions generated by their circumstances, but in general terms I saw exemplified in very specific cases such care, even with people who were not on the agenda, remember the case of a home that would care for a boy who came from another city to study the university and seriously ill, they stayed with him until he died.
I know that orthodoxy and hypocrisy is given, and is most evident in some practices and in some people, but at least I went through I realize that this occurred.
Certainly at home avoiding personal friendships, but I sure saw displays of affection on countless occasions and when I left home I continued to receive tokens of affection, except for some who were indifferent, and must be at behaviors at which you refer but certainly not a common practice.
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AMAPOLA 37: You can change your nickname by clicking on "configure user profile, which appears below the main page of the forum (that in which you are connected users, not if OPUS DEI FORUM GENERAL or ...)
A kiss!
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