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Q anybody tell me what is the hair shirt?
And a cash, an aggregate, a collaborator? explain why I lost.
Q things can not make a belonging?
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| We are a group of friends, we are expecting some respuesta.muchimas thanks. |
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Group of friends: what was your question? (sorry, but I do not want to look for the forum).
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hair shirt: a kind of metal necklace with dots that are placed in the upper leg, every day, men 1 hour 2 hours women ¿?
cash: a member of the work at a celibate lives ...
added: idem Numerario, only at home
supernumerary: a member of the work that marries and has children
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Marcelo Volo and I have nothing to do with Lola. If you had minimal knowledge of grammar and literature you'll see that we are two different people from different countries. Why are so badly designed? So bad you go in life. In your writing is always translucid debt of guilt which Theseus dragging chains. Enjoy and be happy, before "in" and now "out". A lot of people doing very well join ballroom dance classes.
Regards.
P.D. No retreat no word of such a Marukita, is an uneducated and heavy, although it has every right to be. |
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Volo,
Perdonadme.Me was wrong.
You are correct in saying that I have minimal knowledge of grammar and literature in Spanish. I'm a Portuguese-speaking ...
Moreover, I confess, I am not able to differentiate "accents" and "styles" in Spanish.
But, you it was so identical to Lola that I have resisted thinking about unity among yourselves. Are so similar, identical ideas, arguments etc ...
Anyway, pardon me.
Thank you for your comprehension and sorry for my errors of grammar, literary and "identify" ...
To avoid confusion, perhaps may correspond in Portuguese, German, French, English or Italian, languages that I find easier than Spanish.
Well then, that Marukita you answer, because I can not do for her.
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VOLO!!!! So we are identical  ? Look you ... and I thought it was unique ....
Marce, the forum is in Spanish, so sorry (as I understand the language, which does not always understand the arguments, but I think it is a matter of language). And if you do not seem fair, do not you can complain, because the work is also the official Spanish language (because they wanted to "your father")
And if you're angry at the little tone ironic, enojate me, not to Volo has nothing to do ... And if you do not get mad better ... The idea is not to fight, but to "confront".
Kisses!
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MARCELO, I just read the previous page (I had lost it) ... I am neither wise nor to sound, but ... St. Augustine lived in the 354-430, several authors called historical early Middle Ages (first centuries of Christianity) As you know was the most prolific father of the Church. The Fathers of great influence in his day, in the Middle Ages itself and is also currently studying (although I prefer the Thomistic doctrine)
But this is not a history lesson ... and has nothing to do with the topic of the forum. In any case, to clarify what Marukita because he brought up....
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In addition (for Marcelo, I forgot earlier) andes bothered me accusing me of using different nicknames ... And I think that flew over was half hard and I Marukita the rebound pickup ...
Marcelo really get me out of my mind ... If you check the forum, you're the only one with everyone fighting ... Noi will be something to rethink and change (as you say).
The truth, I will try not to take the points ... but you make me bring out the evil character (and that's very good, because "your father" had a bad temper and is holy ... Arise chinchudos!!!!!!)
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LOLA2002,
I have already apologized to Volo.
De facto, it was a great injustice to confuse him with you mine ... Volo intercourse ...
May he forgive me.
You said: "Look you ... and I thought it was unique ..."
Do not think so original ... all "against" have the same arguments and ideas ... mode is not as original.
The forum is in Spanish. OK, I have to accept (and suffer) the consequences.
San Agustin. We take for shut up OK? No forum topic.
"If you look at the forum, you're the only one with everyone fighting ... Noi will be something to rethink and change (as you say)."
I like the fight. Not you?
Bad character to yours, that's your problem ...
At "my" father, I am very fond, yes, and devotion. It is holy, yes, from the 6 October. Not you know.
Marcelo
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Hi We are a group of friends had a friend and Q Q ES DEL OPUS BELIEVE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: He belongs to a wealthy family and Numbered 24 years who is very proud D GO TO MASS AND DEFINED AS A BOY VERY TRADITIONAL , HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR HIS FATHER AND BIBLE HAS A HOME IN A SHOWCASE presided over by His SALON, sexist mentality HAVE UNION AND DISCLAIMS ANY RELIGIOUS Q NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A GREAT OBSESSION Q FORM A LARGE FAMILY FOR GOOD TO FIRST START OVER TO LEAVE WITH A GIRL CASUAL OPUS D FAMILY AND FRIENDS GROUP D OR NOT WE KNOW WHERE HAS KNOWN, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE TB Q BELONG TO WORK AND IT HAS HAD TO SEE THAT UNION Q? OS AGRADECERIA because from CONTESTASEIA Q Q WITH THIS GIRL IS NO LONGER OR THE SHADE OR SHALL EIR, nor spoke, TA AND WE PREOCUPA.GRACIAS MU RARO
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Lola2002,
I changed my mind. I decided to go on the forum. May all be happy and content ...
Anyway, I appreciate the interest in my opinion. For the last time, I'll give um different view to yours.
(Look, I have no illusions of convincing, nor do I argue).
Yes, the experience of Iggy causes pain.
But I do not know is that experience is enough to generalize to the whole Work. That is, this does not happen in all cases, or think that happens very rarely granted.
You like anecdotes, no? I tell one, who has spent com a girl, my dear.
She, this girl had to wait long to ask for admission because, as she had had sex with her boyfriend and an abortion at 17 years-desperately silly and was not appropriate for it outside of work ... She has waited about 8 years before he was allowed to ask for admission.
Therefore, this girl has "blown" at least 25 years com.
And mind you, not coerced into it "beep", but she has waited 8 years to allow him to seek admission.
I think the opus, when they have heard of abortion, have NOT ATERIAL S AFETY this girl from above, as if they had the truth and she (the girl abortion) was wrong and was a poor thing. Made to wait to ask for admission as a precaution, because abortion, perhaps you do not know, cause a lot of depression and psychological trauma.
This girl, Madam, tell him not to hide from his parents, because she was good too old (25 years) and has also blown as supernumerary, not cash.
If you have spoken to this girl from proselytizing, but also told her not to instrumentalize friendship, something that could happen is not well understood charity and apostolate.
This girl, my love, over time, have said she had no vocation. At first she thought he had despised. But then thanked, because it had no vocation, the best was not followed in the Work. It would be terrible, having no vocation, he was forced to stay inside. His life would be hell um. ..
Only had a vocation and not enough. They have not considered better or worse than others. Vocation is God's call. No one can give or withdraw their vocation, but the Lord.
This is the story of uma amiga mia. La mia you already know. But you've forgotten, I remind you that:
1) I have not been coerced;
2) Pite com 15 years, but I lost youth (on the contrary!)
3) when I left the opus, I have not felt "out of the doorstep";
4) when I left, I have continued my professional work;
5) I have not been abandoned, though each has outros interests;
6) I am not manipulated (though you insist em say yes);
7) I've been unfaithful and Soberbo (superbi?? - I have great difficulties em ... you know Spanish)
Kisses.
I am no better nor worse than you.
Your no worse or better than me.
We are neither better nor worse than others.
God loves us, that He forgive us and bless us.
Besos, um big hug,
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| Marcelo, who determines which person is calling? That is so relative that I doubt that all od vocation have or have ever had. There are many cases that pushes people to whistle, especially if you're a normal person in every sense of the word, "we are interested in the hundred hundred" claimed J.escribá, you will know well, that means any person coming to work and be normal, "will be calling." And to me that I do not think even half normal, I think one reason so many casualties is this that people come down, of course you are free to choose, but when you have eaten both the coconut with the theme of vocation, who is the handsome face and throws it says no? There will certainly cases, but also be other, CRUCIBLE |
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| Continuing with the same, am Crisol, and that happens to that famous list of three people to open every year, I think is on the feast of St. Joseph, where he put three names of persons for which pitables states throughout year and was mortified to come into the OD? But what the hell, excuse me, what right has a youngster to say that this or that person might have a vocation? Frankly this "zeal for souls" which is translated into reality in a cza and capture the person does not know in ningu another religious order, has more to do with the spirit of a cult than anything else? That list seems unnatural, forced situation, and an unhealthy cirleydopvo Anasi people like yourself, and if by chance someone does not know anyone with ability to whistle, which passes it has to invent a vocation for someone just because custom requires every year to three in the little list that absurd, Memeza largest remaining stuff like that attraction to the work, and asks what the body is run away from mounting such, |
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