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| Alvaro, I Berto, the friend of children. Strong focus on two kinds of Opus that you think exists. Apart from the obvious, namely that the supernumeraries are married and the other not, are there more differences for you?. It seems as if the other works were married, when I know several so fanatical as tenured or aggregates. Within their married status, of course. Explain. Bye. |
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06 December de 2002 at 20:14:49
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Friend Berto, the differences between cash and temporary, not that I say is what we wanted and highlighted the founder who called supernumeraries 'rank and file'.
In 1934, the Academy-DYA residence, was born the first group of future OD, with a life in common and the three traditional monastic vows: obedience, chastity and poverty. Thirteen years later, when the OD was a reality, incorporating the supernumerary and cooperative. Supernumeraries do not live in common, do not exercise the vow of poverty (some are superdinerarios) nor that of chastity (married). But also, in my opinion, the big difference is the kind of obedience and mind control.
One of the known techniques for mind control of members of a group is living together to gain control of the environment and individual behavior daily. You must get control of their family environment and emotional, food, clothing, work, rituals, sleep, etc.. Prescribe a very rigid schedule for its members, are assigned the implementation of targets and specific tasks, they restricted their free time and made them economically dependent on the group. They should ask permission for everything and they are required to report their activity at all hours. So the group controls the reins of behavior, and therefore the thinking and emotions. It discourages members that make contact with relatives or friends outside the group. Even exchange views with other members of the group with which they live.
This mental control is performed in the OD Fellows by the isolation of his family (bonding), control time (exhausting days without time to think), cancellation of privacy (read correspondence, inspect lockers, confessions, censorship), economic dependence, pressure (fraternal correction, director), austerities (sackcloth, disciplines, cold showers, sleep on board, etc).
In summary, the OD is born with and for Fellows. He was 13 without supernumeraries, and could do without them if you wanted, and would remain OPUS.
One thing to be a fanatic and a follower.
PD: In connection with the isolation of the family "blood" is grotesque that the only one who lived with his family was blood Escriba.
As always, I am open to criticism and discussion.
KindestRegards
Alvaro
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18 December de 2002 at 18:47:03
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I seem to recall the once famous Hare Krishna, Hare. They had a formula for achieving felicdad in this world and in the future.
It was simple, just had to be "brave TOUGH" and consisted of:
a) being a vegetarian.
b) repeated thousands of times every day the phrase Hare Krishna (preferably accompanied by dances and drum).
c) not having sex.
d) make chants (mantras), on time before the fire.
e) sleep little.
f) and the main thing begging for GURU.
Needless to say that he lived on the alms GURU I got her.
And besides the acolyte and Krishna were happy
In my system sounds much
A greeting
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Alvaro, very good description of a Senior Fellow @. One has q. go through the experience of having been, to understand it fully. Q. Manipulation had over us was so brutal that completely annihilate our capacity decisions on our own, like we have all we need niños.Sólo q. increasingly consult q. went to do our needs (eg.).
Where do you want to reach these people? This is a regla.Así throughout atropeyo q. I do not come with hot packs and no sanctimonious arguments to defend the opus. The opus is no defense whatsoever and the proof is q. increasing q. they criticize something, you are no arguments, leave by the back door and ambiguous "supernatural" or "love of God."
Everything is justified with such thought control máximas.El for example, is to q. stick to your love for God and the "good spirit" of the work. And so I forbid endless readings and films q. only violate the rules at opus.Porque fundamentalists are books, movies, TV q. circulating in our country and do not prejudice or anything nadie.No we are in a democratic society? Who is the opus to be erected in the sabelo all, the sole possessor of Truth? No man, q. and we older ones, q. It will not wash.
Acknowledge q. The ballyhooed "good spirit" gives them a great game to achieve their ends.
If a temporary remove the bread from the mouths q. feed your family ready for the opus, this is a "good spirit. For q. Then the opus is dedicated to spend money on bricks or Torreciudad's finest homes for the countless q. built and equipped with every luxury.
For q.no, q. my all this seems intolerable. It seems impossible q. At this point there are people q. creea q. Opus Dei is great and wonderful. And it's a shame q. a beech had q. pass through the bitter experience of being a numerary, to realize q. it was all a farce.
Regards to all,
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