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although members of opus dei act "under instructions from their superiors" were people that we were misled with the foolish things of the vocation, which people were coerced us, kept us, not sausage "the only truth" and we a hair shirt while we were minors.
begin to say their names, and names of clubs or centers where we went. forward with the truth, there is nothing to lose.
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| ! Finally released numerary reappears deigned down from Olympus and giving us a little words of encouragement and calling, among other niceties, idle for being on the forum. But of course she is not idle is sanctified with his apostolate. That is what is in a vice in others is virtue (! Miracle, a miracle). It came in the last few years proving they are right who say and write that on the Work quality is being abandoned for the sake of quantity, and now it seems that anyone can be of Opus. A good hours for 20 or 30 years would be the unpresentable numerary "border line" that gives us these little messages. This will sharply, they will end up looking like (with all due respect) at Missing Daughters of Mary of the '40s and '50s, but with worse education. |
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my name is anita, my name is ana. the person who calls me anita ask you not to.
I'm not a sweetie, the person who calls me so I ask you not to.
I ask you to stop treating me well.
I know it might cost you, but also costs tighten the hair shirt! or not? I remember that if ...
Indeed, the sanctity of the opus practice speaks for itself ...: fuck that contradicts much as you can, if it bothers you that you have renamed, rename the sky you will earn!, total, if a poor embittered jilipollas to give you
Gaspar today ... as I said: you know what the "Christian charity"?
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| Invitado |
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YO CREO Q NO GOOD FOR NOTHING to name, is nonsense CAN NOT DO ANYTHING, SO IS LIFE
A GREETING FROM SPAIN
P.D. NO RECORD IN THIS CHAT ME PQ BUT NOT REGISTER AS A LEO OS . |
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| Evaristo |
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Ana, do not get mad at me because I tell you sweetie, you see, I mean, he wanted to emulate the impressive ability to rhyme words of the people here and of course I can not overcome, I could think of another word. But if it bothers you, do not worry, it will not be for me. I again refer to you as sweetie. Accept, then, to ask you and all listeros stop referring to Opus Dei as a sect: quid pro quo. By the way, Ana, who still have not supported or your own initiative and have not taken a single name. Do not say this because I care, but to make you see an obvious inconsistency.
But let that go: he has broken the cash, which both echabais less ... miss her so much, and you wanted to crucify her. That itself is well understood the Christian charity. It is also true that she asked for it, but just like some of the forum. I mean I think she is as radical as you, and his experience as valid as yours. But you can not tell you anything because you have to shake it. Well you know my attitude to it: all you deserve a radical sweetbreads, the freaks and malcontents. Someone once said that extremes meet.
Some balance, GENTLEMEN!
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Opus does not teach its members to think they are taught to obey, period.
I remember the brochure presenting the club that I frequented, where parents could read it at girls were taught to become "the character and will." Where were the intelligence, creativity, imagination? The girls, like boys, they are programmed to assimilate without question a number of ideas imposed.
I also remember, as a method, that constant repetition of slogans and phrases like "never go wrong if you obey ",... repeating phrases that hammered both welcome and nullify the craving to seek, to know, to ask the why of things, to maintain a critical sense to the world and face reality.
Thus, the education received by members of Opus incapacitates them for an open debate, honest and unbiased. Therefore, it is not strange that members of Opus-unaccustomed to think for themselves-react with anger, insults and violence against at opinions, and criticisms.
The intervention slighted and disappointed the previous guest shows reflections that I expressed in these lines.
The sad thing is that we can not blame that person's performance: his words are the result of "education" received by Opus, on who bears sole responsibility. |
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| ana |
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28 January de 2003 at 10:28:30
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why lie for lying?! that incredible!
so what the sweetie you did it to keep the roll of the rhymes ... get you and not me ...
perhaps I'm the rhyming I do?
do not believe your spiritual or
I am a sweetie you can not prove it. that Opus Dei is a cult it can be argued. if you want to do.
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28 January de 2003 at 10:53:18
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Uppssss !!!!!
The last message from author "guest", it's mine (I'm Cabernet). I do not know why the name did not come out.
I've seen several spelling errors (more errors of "printing"): I wanted to write "following", not "obey". "Method", not "method". "Stranger", not "strange". And I think there is more.
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As for the message Evaristo, who compels us to not use the word "sect" to define the Opus, I say that excuses many of us saw our opinions and our spirit when we were both members. And now finally we are free, you'll use the word "pleases us" (as he likes to say "holy" founder).
In addition, opinions aside, the use of "sect" is right on the sociological level. |
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28 January de 2003 at 13:39:54
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Evaristo, you to see
intended to annoy,
we do not come you, sweetie,
with the excuse Macanudo,
you wanted to rhyme.
If you want to build lines,
Put in it the heart,
y. .., I think is important,
be brave, not arrogant,
and assist ratio.
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If ... sister Ana rhymes with
and Miss Anita
this prevents the Guest
call by name to Anna ..
Y. .. from what I saw,
call Ana "sweetie"
rhymes with cheeky
is not like you, Evaristo.
We are here to say
respecting adversary
should not be hitman
y. .. focus insult.
Two criticizes you
y.. with correct view
Opus I call Sect.
not give a damn.
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28 January de 2003 at 15:58:13
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Here is shown only thing is I know not rhyme, and less poppy and Duarte. But it seems that Cabernet blessed that I can also use the words that I want. If I use sweetie, for the job. Let's use the word "pleases us" (as he likes to say "holy" founder). So, Ana, as Cabernet, you'll have to tease, but since I'm not so bud, and I promised in another message, not repeat it. And Cabernet should not be trusted when someone comes up with separate opinions leave (going all together, in addition to those recognized, there are more mistakes than you think). SEPARATE VIEWS! The battered numerary saying something. With another subject, but something similar. Are you the same Cabernet that proud claim to have said that Opus at clubs like girls-boys-they are programmed to assimilate without question a number of ideas imposed. Well, now you look where I want to impose separate opinion, an idea. Ana, at least, threatens to discuss it. That is something. But dear Anne, there have been several discussions on this matter in which not reached any conclusion. Rather, the conclusion of many was exactly like its premise, which, to understand, is called prejudice. Read them again and see. One question, Cabernet Are you the owner of your words, or is the Opus, or is ignorance, or is resentment, or is prejudice? Duarte rhymes with "jerk?
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Evaristo:
What you just write ( "Duarte rhyme with fool?"), It is worth, plenty.
If here is a fool, it's you. And who knows what else. Forgive me for saying so, but you can not say otherwise. A I do not like cursing, but Duarte did not you done anything to tell you that.
We are not here to insult, but to to discuss calmly. And it is seen that the "education" that people receive Opus incapacitates them for honest debate.
Just by example. I need not tell me. |
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To not like to insult him, he hid it well. But technically I have not insulted anyone. Again acknowledge my limitations in this in rhyme, and exceed that of nerve and Evaristo was very difficult.
You admit opinions on this, or we also separately? |
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The rhyme was not between nerve and Evaristo, but between nerve and sweetie.
Is there to find out things before saying something. |
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| Evaristo |
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I told myself that I could not rhyme with cheeky Evaristo. And even if not insist, nor stupid. And hit man, what rhyme? I say this because if you made Duarte case and use the words that he wants, what is the problem? Or do you have had a fit of tolerance and dialogue now want without leaving out the views?
Because I have the afternoon off, if I would not be here reading crap ... |
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Evaristo, if you can not read "stupid" not read them, even if you have the afternoon off, or is it that you have been appointed to be here in your afternoons free?, is this a sacrifice added to a lot of your life plan mandatory?
Of course, now I understand why, he invited those who are not here to order, by divine mandate, starting calling us lazy. Of course, now I fall! For her to be into the Internet must be a paid job, which easily earn some bread, as they should be spying to see what is cooked in pots of neighbor, for ale, jobs are created whose office is working into the forums.
She says she is divinely in the OP, do not you gonna be? with a job like maids and free, who would not be?
I'm the chocolate has been the corner to ask a little bitterness to give final touch to their specialty chocolate.
By the way fro like a joke you know adapt to laugh a little differently, and I get tired of doing with ironies, all things considered, though it seems otherwise, it is not my thing.
Un abrazo
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